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by Skiprr
Mon May 20, 2013 7:04 pm
Forum: Competitive Shooting
Topic: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?
Replies: 23
Views: 12439

Re: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?

george wrote:Just a note, the revised IDPA rulebook looks like all striker fired pistols will be eligible for ssp, including H&K P7 (again).
Yep; that looks to be the case. A logical win for XD shooters, I think.

The proposed 2013 Rule Book (which will replace the 2005 version) would take effect on October 1, after the 2013 Nationals. The proposed Rule Book was posted on the IDPA website May 7, right after the NRA National Meeting in Houston. Folks interested can view and download it here: http://www.idpa.com/compete/rules.

Looking at the equipment rules, I wasn't completely certain they'd allowed the XD into SSP or not: it mentions that DA and striker-fired pistols are SSP eligible, but then it goes on with what seems to be the previous distinction between DA and SA.

However, Joyce Wilson was interviewed May 5, while at the NRA National Meeting, by ProArms Podcast (http://proarmspodcast.com/2013/05/05/08 ... ce-wilson/) and seven minutes into the interview she very clearly states that XDs will be SSP eligible under the rules.
by Skiprr
Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:49 pm
Forum: Competitive Shooting
Topic: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?
Replies: 23
Views: 12439

Re: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?

Rangel wrote:Why wouldnt the xdm be able to be shot in SSP? not like it really matters to me, I have a trigger job with a overtravel stop so I would have to shoot ESP anyways.
When Springfield first introduced the modified Croatian HS2000 to the U.S. market as the XD, and it caught on, the powers that be at IDPA HQ evaluated the pistol.

SSP requires that the pistol used be classified as Double Action, and that definition, by the IDPA, is that each pull of the trigger performs two separate actions. First, it cocks or retracts the hammer/striker, and second it releases the hammer/striker. With the XD, the striker is fully retracted by the cycling of the pistol and pulling the trigger performs only one action: it releases the striker. Therefore, the IDPA judged it to be a Single Action pistol, not a DA.

There was controversy around that decision at first. I don't think it was due to any argument that the XD was technically SA--it was marketed that way in Europe as the HS2000--but that the Glock was considered a DA, and SSP, while the XD was pushed to SA, and ESP. See, the cycling action of a Glock also retracts the striker...but only 2/3 of the way. Pulling the trigger completes the other 1/3 of the striker tensioning, then releases it. That's why the trigger on a stock Glock can feel a bit mushier than the one on a stock XD.

So that's the history in a nutshell. Of course, you can also shoot a .45 ACP XD in the CDP division, as well.
by Skiprr
Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:11 pm
Forum: Competitive Shooting
Topic: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?
Replies: 23
Views: 12439

Re: IDPA - Gun Choice - Glock 34 vs M&P Pro 9L vs ...?

Rangel wrote:Thanks for the link, I have been meaning to make it down to The Arms Room but its just hasnt lined up with my work schedule. Do I need to shoot a classifier for PSC?
Nope. Your first match there you'll need to be sure you arrive a bit early and attend a range safety briefing. But it isn't required that you have a valid classification in order to shoot matches there. Info here: http://www.psc-range.com/index.php/idpa-matches.

The only downside to your XDm, which I'm sure you know, is that you can't use it in SSP (Stock Service Pistol); you'll have to shoot ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol).

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