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by Rrash
Sat May 30, 2015 4:30 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 40611

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

The Annoyed Man wrote:Back when CHL first passed, there was no 30.06 codicil, and so even if some business owner were anti-gun, he would not have been read up on being able to keep people out with a 30.06 sign. But, 30.06 signs have been in existence for a LONG time now, and the one thing that has kept more of them from being posted is simply that if our guns are out of sight, they are out of the business-owner's mind.

However, things are more politically polarized than ever these days, and the debates over open carry did not occur in a vaccum....... including details such as 30.07 signage since it is part of the law that was passed, unlike with original CHL law and 30.06. I wonder what impact that is going to have on the posting of signage. Will people who are motivated to post 30.07 signs also go the extra trouble to post 30.06 if they haven't already? Will they do nothing until the first time someone carries openly into their business? Will they carry on as before and do nothing?

Inquiring minds want to know. I'm guessing that there will be an initial jump in the rate at which sign postings get reported on texas3006.com (has Russell already claimed texas3007.com?), after which things will calm down. The reason I think this is that the sign postings will likely be in response to new open carriers who are doing it for the novelty of it, and that when the novelty wears off and they decide to prefer (not "eliminate", I mean prefer) CC over OC, they will OC less frequently, resulting in less frequent postings.

However, the "damage" will have been done as, once the signs have been posted, they are not likely to be taken down ever again. So the question that interests me is to what extent business owners will react this way.
I wondered the same thing back when 30.07 was originally discussed. If you already have to pollute the front of your store with a 30.07 sign, is it not common sense to balance it out with a brand new 30.06? I also see this as a novelty and the controversial topic du jour on media for both antis and pro 2A's. The liberal friends I know have grown to accept, even acknowledge the effectiveness of concealed carry, yet loathe the idea of open carry. To change their minds, two things need to happen. First, the whole novelty of open carry needs to wear off. Second, we need to prove wrong the misconception that all open carriers will act like Kory Watkins, criminals (my favorite is the scenario, where an open carrying bank robber stands patiently in line before committing his crime!), or Wyatt Earp. Both of these will take time. Unfortunately, most businesses that post 30.07 signs will likely leave them up.

We can hope that business owners decide to post only 30.07 either out of respect or ignorance of 30.06, but I suspect we will see lots of both signs. While we can choose to take our business elsewhere, our absence does not make a major impact, so the signs are likely to stay.
by Rrash
Sat May 30, 2015 12:32 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 40611

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

30.06 will apply specifically to concealed. The wording of 30.06 will be changed to reflect concealed carry. 30.07 will apply specifically to open. On Jan 1,2016, all current 30.06 signs will be invalid and will need to be replaced with the updated 30.06 that specifies concealed carry.

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