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by TexasCajun
Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

sixer-sxt-3.7 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Longhorn1986 wrote:Good morning everyone,

I just sent this off to the George Library in Richmond last night. We will see how this goes... [Shortened to reduce post length]
I may be wrong, but I believe that the Fort Bend library system is claiming that they are in fact a school system and not a collection of libraries. The one in Cinco Ranch is also posted. I think we need to get some legislative clarity on what exactly is a school.
That has also been picked up here, as well:

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... 7&start=45

That's the thread I found when I noticed 46.03 posting on the George Memorial Library window a month back.

Fort Bend County posted a letter, and this was signed off by an FBC Judge :banghead:
sixer-sxt-3.7 wrote:...The "do what now?" goes all the way to the top. ;-)
But I agree - there needs to be more legislation on what Texas considers an "educational institution".
Eliminating off limits places would be better.
by TexasCajun
Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:05 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Longhorn1986 wrote:Good morning everyone,

I just sent this off to the George Library in Richmond last night. We will see how this goes:


Kenny Chao
Branch Manager
George Memorial Library

Dear Mr. Chao,

My name is Mxxxxxx Xxxxxxx and I am a resident of Fort Bend County. I stopped by the George Memorial Library today at lunchtime and noticed that you have posted Texas Penal Code 46.03 signage indicating that firearms are prohibited in the library regardless of licensing.

Per section 46.03 which you cite, individuals possessing a valid license to carry may only be prohibited under the following conditions:

during school-sponsored activities on library grounds (Texas Penal Code §46.03(a)(1))

during early voting or on election day if the library is a polling place (Texas Penal Code §46.03(a)(2))

during a meeting of a governmental body, such as a public library district board meeting, but only in the room where the meeting is being held (Texas Penal Code §46.035(c))

Other than those specified times, a license holder may not be prohibited from carrying.

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ld/librarydev ... raries.pdf


I respectfully request that you remove your signage within the three days as specified by the Texas Attorney General's office. Failure to do so will result in the filing of a complaint with and an investigation by the Texas AG office.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/apps/3006/

I urge the Fort Bend County library system to comply with the laws of Texas.

Respectfully,

Mxxxxxx Xxxxxxx




I cc'd the TSRA as well. Stuff like this in Travis Co. or Harris Co wouldn't surprise me. I expect better in Ft. Bend.
Good letter. The only problem is that the prohibition against carry during school-sponsored events only applies to school administrators on school property. It's a bit confusing, but Charles gives a really good explanation in one of the TFC podcasts.
by TexasCajun
Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:48 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Regardless of whether or not they've already been reported, you should go through the process and file a complaint if they are posting non-professional sporting events.
by TexasCajun
Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

With regard to 51% establishments, the signage is inconsequential. It's the TABC designation that matters. There are bigger windmills to fight.
by TexasCajun
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:26 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

unicyclist wrote:
unicyclist wrote:Not a city, but still an improper state office 30.06 posting.

Gulf Coast Waste Disposal Authority (Just offices, no pumps, factories, anything of that nature)
910 Bay Area Blvd
Houston, TX ‎
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Update
I have finally spoken with Keith Hardcastle (Director of HR). He is a very hard person to get ahold of, or he just didn't like me trying to get the sign removed. He claims he was in contact with the Attorney General for Texas and he was told that he is able to prohibit a CHL from entering the office location.

In all of encounters to get signs removed, this is the only person that claims to of talked to the AG. Every other municipality that I have been working with has removed their signs. Where do I go from here? I called the AG and its attorney-client so no luck there. I think I want to go submit an open records request for any emails concerning the 30.06 sign within GCWDA and see what I can get.

Any ideas?
How would attorney-client privilege apply here? The State Attorney General is a public officer, not a privately hired attorney. As suggested, request the records. If the location you listed is an office of a government entity, you should be able to also bring this to the attention of the City Attorney for the municipality in question for a double-barreled approach.
by TexasCajun
Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:02 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 333973

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

JT69 wrote:So in our new laws that went in afect today! The one On the legal posting of the 30.06 sign!! I guess it failed ?
Correct. That bill did not pass during the last session.

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