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by mloamiller
Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
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Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

rotor wrote:I honestly can't see this ever getting this far but would there be a bill for services rendered as they requested you to leave with a partially eaten meal?
Seems to me the logical conversation at this point would be "Sir, I will be happy to leave. Should I leave now, before I'm finished, or after I've finished my meal? Oh, and if you say 'now', I'm obviously not paying for a meal you won't allow me to finish."
by mloamiller
Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:00 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 40564

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

ralewis wrote:Couple that with the fact that the 30.06 signage seems to need to be changed, and maybe the new 30.06 signs are never replaced.
I thought of that as well. Someone else commented that signage space at the front of many stores is in short supply. Since the 30.06s will have to replaced, and if owners don't have room for both 30.06 and 30.07, they may opt only for the 30.07 since open carry would get the most attention. If so, it's a win for concealed carry.

We'll just have to wait and see.
by mloamiller
Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:22 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 40564

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

The Annoyed Man wrote:Back when CHL first passed, there was no 30.06 codicil, and so even if some business owner were anti-gun, he would not have been read up on being able to keep people out with a 30.06 sign. But, 30.06 signs have been in existence for a LONG time now, and the one thing that has kept more of them from being posted is simply that if our guns are out of sight, they are out of the business-owner's mind.

However, things are more politically polarized than ever these days, and the debates over open carry did not occur in a vaccum....... including details such as 30.07 signage since it is part of the law that was passed, unlike with original CHL law and 30.06. I wonder what impact that is going to have on the posting of signage. Will people who are motivated to post 30.07 signs also go the extra trouble to post 30.06 if they haven't already? Will they do nothing until the first time someone carries openly into their business? Will they carry on as before and do nothing?

Inquiring minds want to know. I'm guessing that there will be an initial jump in the rate at which sign postings get reported on texas3006.com (has Russell already claimed texas3007.com?), after which things will calm down. The reason I think this is that the sign postings will likely be in response to new open carriers who are doing it for the novelty of it, and that when the novelty wears off and they decide to prefer (not "eliminate", I mean prefer) CC over OC, they will OC less frequently, resulting in less frequent postings.

However, the "damage" will have been done as, once the signs have been posted, they are not likely to be taken down ever again. So the question that interests me is to what extent business owners will react this way.
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My wife and I had that exact conversation about a month ago, and one reason I would not have been terribly upset if Open Carry had not passed. Don't get me wrong - I'm not against Open Carry, but I doubt I will ever do it, and am more concerned about the negative impact those practicing it will have on Concealed Carry. I can just hope that those who do chose to carry openly won't be so "in your face" with it that it costs the rest of us dearly.

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