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by tornado
Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:43 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

nobius wrote:It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm happy to wait on unlicensed carry as long as my rights when carrying expand even though I would need a license.

I should not have to disarm in order to walk into a 51% bar and deliver papers early in the day when the place is not even open.

I should not have to disarm in order to go to the post office.

I should not have to disarm in order to go to IKEA.
Bar: I totally agree. Open or not. As long as you're not intoxicated.
PO: That's federal. Talk to Congress.
IKEA: I don't see 30.06 going away. Texas is big on rights of private property owners.

Here's mine:
I should not have to disarm in order to visit my sons' public schools and leave a weapon in an unoccupied car, where I believe it's potentially more dangerous than concealed on my person.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 2:26 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

Since Charles said "It's not going to make it to the floor" I doubt it matters at this point.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 1:52 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

K.Mooneyham wrote:I'm really confused at this point. I don't understand if something is going through regarding OC or not.
HB308 doesn't (and didn't) directly involve open carry at all. That's HB910/SB17.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 9:43 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

CleverNickname wrote:It's still not a bad bill by any means, but removing the section of the bill that exempts licensees from 46.02 and 46.03 pretty much guts it.
I can agree with this. We don't lose anything, and it's better than HB308 dying in committee. It's not the big jump we wanted, but progress is good.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 9:16 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

C-dub wrote:Unless you're not officially on the trip with them or a chaperon, but just happen to be at the same place at the same time like many other people.
It's a "defense to prosecution" not a "does not apply." It might be hard to defend showing up where you know your kid will be on a field trip on the grounds that you're not an official chaperone. At least I imagine it would be here in the People's Republic of Travis County.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 8:55 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

MikeHoncho wrote:It also removed the 46.02 and 46.03 exemption for CHL's. Teachers and students will now be helpless victims for two more years.
Along with those of us parents who like to volunteer at schools and on field trips.
by tornado
Fri May 08, 2015 8:15 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

I haven't read it, but the new text is up. http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... Bill=HB308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

EDIT: I've read it. Highlights:
  • Class C unless oral warning and didn't leave, then Class A
  • Clarifies being around a field trip (but allow carry in schools unless the school allows it in written regulations or written authorization)
  • removes the hospital, amusement park, religious center, and judge/DA sections that were already defense to prosecution
  • adds resident retired federal judges
This is not the HB308 I knew and loved. I like the class reduction, but making it all go away would have been so much better.
by tornado
Tue May 05, 2015 12:14 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB308
Replies: 230
Views: 86155

Re: HB308

TexasJohnBoy wrote:This is good movement. Now please move Campus Carry too... Or does HB308 effectively take care of that too? I didn't see any mention of higher education in the text of the bill I looked at...
I can't speak for the substituted text, but if it excludes CHL from 46.03 that would take care of campus carry. Look at the text of the bill as introduced and search for 46.15 to see the underlined part that would be added.

EDIT: I would think 30.06 would still be enforceable for schools & colleges that aren't held in buildings "owned or leased by a governmental entity."

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