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There is no such thing as a coincidence when discussing this issue.

Soros is ramping up the far left communist civil disruption, http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/18 ... ation.html in order to keep our police and DHS busily distracted, while the illegal refugees (who are NOT fleeing political persecution but are coming here to wreak havoc, e.g., MS-13) continue to pour over our borders aided and abetted by the left wing judges appointed by Soros' stooge Obama, and those judges likely receive payoffs from Soros as well. This is not some simple left vs. right confrontation, this has been brewing for decades and there is serious evil & money behind this attempt to bring down our country. They cannot bring down the US via a direct military confrontation, they have to get inside and destroy America from within...and if they get their hands on weapons of mass destruction (see the $150 Billion worth of cash on pallets that Obama airlifted to Iran) then they will not hesitate to deploy those on US soil, IMHO.

There is no doubt that this will come to a head, the only uncertainty is the exact timing.

The United States faces its highest Islamist terror threat environment since 9/11, and much of the
threat now stems from individuals who have been radicalized at home. Since 9/11, the nation has
seen 227 homegrown jihadist cases with a recent surge of 115 cases in 2015 and 2016 alone. ISIS’
shift in messaging—from joining the jihad in Syria and Iraq to carrying out attacks in fighters’ home
countries—is likely to accelerate this trend.

https://homeland.house.gov/wp-content/u ... apshot.pdf

Beiruty wrote:

Topbuilder wrote:

Abraham wrote:Is the shooter confirmed NOT to be a recent convert to radical islam?

Sad to say ISIS is looking more credible here than the FBI and VPD are. The times we live in... The Enquirer is now more credible than the mainstream media.

No credible info yet. After all those planning you would expect to have a video of shooter explaining why he did his heinous act.

OK, I am going for the conspiracy theory:

He was set up by Soros funded thugs (the thugs did the actual shooting and left this guy with no priors as the patsy). The object of the mission was to drive the government into implementing an Australian type gun confiscation after which ISIS terror cells - already in the US as a result of Obama's wide open borders - proceed to massacre us all and establish the American caliphate.

Not bad, eh?

In 2012, there was a meningitis outbreak that killed 64 people and sickened more than 700 others throughout the U.S. The pharmacist responsible is facing federal trial in Boston. The former New England Compounding Center employee is being charged with second-degree murder and conspiracy, as well as other racketeering charges. Makes you wonder why that case did not get such scrutiny? Really? Maybe the liberals do not want to see "drug free zones" ?

https://www.cemag.us/blog/2017/10/pharm ... ing-happen

philip964 wrote:50 Dead 400 injured. 10 rifles. Built a platform inside the room, broke out the window. Had a camera system, so he could tell when the police were at his room. He had been in the room since Thursday. Apparently well planned. The shooter is being reported as Stephen Paddock, 64. His family has no idea why he did this. No political affiliations. He lived in Nevada near Las Vegas.

No immediate obvious answers to why he did this.

Words cannot express the tragedy of this event and the utter senselessness of this horror.

Right. So its not like he carried all that up in his backpack in one trip just before it started. How did the hotel miss this? Somebody either screwed up big time or was bought off. This is bigger than this one guy.

Scott in Houston wrote:

cmgee67 wrote:Lord be with the family’s affected by this horrible event and be with the ones who are in the hospital.


I am glad police were able to stop the shooter. This is a good reminder that anything can happen anywhere and at any time. This a prime example on why we should carry at all times if possible. Carrying a gun isn’t always comfortable but it’s a comfortable thought even though having a gun doesn’t make us invincible or an automatic survivor it at least gives us a fighting chance.

I agree with this sentiment but this also made me realize that sometimes, we're purely at the mercy of pure evil.
Carrying at this concert would have done nothing for any of the victims. He was shooting from an elevated position out of a window. You'd have to be carrying a very nice rifle...

Anyway, prayers for the victims and our country. The new 'discussion' that is about to begin is not going to be enjoyable.

A rifle would not have helped. This is not Ramadi and none of us is Chris Kyle. Cover was limited, the size of the crowd and the area enclosed by walls and fencing made running extremely difficult. Best training you could have is in emergency treating for gunshot wounds and best thing you could carry would be a trauma / blowout kit.