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by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:26 pm
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

v7a wrote:
That having majorities in both has worked so well the last two years.
The President has veto powers under the Constitution. Congress cannot magically overcome that. The solution to this "problem" was to nominate a Republican candidate who could beat Hillary, not to nominate the only candidate who Hillary could beat. People warned during the primary, and the Wikileaks release of Clinton campaign emails has now confirmed, that Hillary wanted Trump as the Republican nominee.
They have handed Barry everything he wanted on a silver platter.
Demonstrably false. Truly astounding that someone could make such a delusional claim on a gun forum. Senate Republicans stopped all the gun control bills that the Democrats tried to pass in Q1 2013 and again more recently with the NoFlyNoBuy bill.

Trump supporters in the primary, however, did hand Hillary what she wanted: Trump as the nominee.
And now it is time to deny her the keys to the candy store!
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:22 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

ScottDLS wrote:
Bitter Clinger wrote: ...
Exactly. The entire establishment are corrupt. Time to clean house. Can't wait to hear: "Ryan, you're fired!"!
'Cause we all know that the Speaker of House of Representatives serves at the pleasure of the President...Maybe Trump's "coat tails" will flip the House Democrat and Nancy Pelosi will be the one saying "You're fired" to Ryan.... :confused5
You are far too young to be so cynical. :nopity
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:08 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

ScottDLS wrote:
Bitter Clinger wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
We need to focus on retaining a majority in Congress so that things can't go too far wrong with Hillary.
That having majorities in both has worked so well the last two years. They have handed Barry everything he wanted on a silver platter. They will give the shrew everything she wants as well.
Yes, but it could have been much worse - with more gun control, an immigration plan with a path to citizenship for illegals, and a liberal appointment to SCOTUS.

Which reminds me: whatever happened to Ryan's "agenda"? Maybe Trump is worth a try, as disgusting as he is... :confused5
Really Dale? "...it could have been much worse"? Are you living under a rock?
James Comey and Loretta Lynch Should Be Impeached for Whitewashing Clinton’s Crimes
Former federal prosecutor says that Hillary obstructed justice and destroyed evidence—with the support of the president himself
http://observer.com/2016/10/james-comey ... ns-crimes/
Except for 2 years the Democrats were a majority in Congress and filibuster proof majority in the Senate. Then Repubs gained a small majority in the Senate in 2014... So if the House impeaches anybody, where are you going to round up the 67 votes in the Senate to convict? Maybe Trump will flip 14 seats in the Senate this year when he wins hugely.... :banghead:
Exactly. The entire establishment are corrupt. Time to clean house. Can't wait to hear: "Ryan, you're fired!"!
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:01 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

bblhd672 wrote:
Bitter Clinger wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
We need to focus on retaining a majority in Congress so that things can't go too far wrong with Hillary.
That having majorities in both has worked so well the last two years. They have handed Barry everything he wanted on a silver platter. They will give the shrew everything she wants as well.
Yes, but it could have been much worse - with more gun control, an immigration plan with a path to citizenship for illegals, and a liberal appointment to SCOTUS.

Which reminds me: whatever happened to Ryan's "agenda"? Maybe Trump is worth a try, as disgusting as he is... :confused5
Really Dale? "...it could have been much worse"? Are you living under a rock?
James Comey and Loretta Lynch Should Be Impeached for Whitewashing Clinton’s Crimes
Former federal prosecutor says that Hillary obstructed justice and destroyed evidence—with the support of the president himself
http://observer.com/2016/10/james-comey ... ns-crimes/
This is not going to end well....
Amen brother.
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:50 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

dale blanker wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
We need to focus on retaining a majority in Congress so that things can't go too far wrong with Hillary.
That having majorities in both has worked so well the last two years. They have handed Barry everything he wanted on a silver platter. They will give the shrew everything she wants as well.
Yes, but it could have been much worse - with more gun control, an immigration plan with a path to citizenship for illegals, and a liberal appointment to SCOTUS.

Which reminds me: whatever happened to Ryan's "agenda"? Maybe Trump is worth a try, as disgusting as he is... :confused5
Really Dale? "...it could have been much worse"? Are you living under a rock?
James Comey and Loretta Lynch Should Be Impeached for Whitewashing Clinton’s Crimes
Former federal prosecutor says that Hillary obstructed justice and destroyed evidence—with the support of the president himself
http://observer.com/2016/10/james-comey ... ns-crimes/
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:03 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

The Donald Lives!
If he is going down to defeat, he will go out as Trump, not some sniveling penitent begging forgiveness from hypocrites who fear and loathe him.
http://www.ammoland.com/2016/10/the-don ... z4MmXGK2Qs
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:32 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

dale blanker wrote:
Scott, I think your analysis is valid except for the people to blame - it's just the Republican primary voters who are so anxious for ANY change that they are willing to ignore conservative commentators and just plain common sense. Amazing. It's sad to see so much desperation.

We need to focus on retaining a majority in Congress so that things can't go too far wrong with Hillary.
Right Dale, because the RINO majority has been so effective at countering Obama, Obamacare, Executive Orders, etc., etc. The fact that that traitor in the White House has not been impeached speaks volumes. You completely miss the mark. Trump is an anti-establishment PATRIOT. :smash:
by Bitter Clinger
Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:15 pm
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

Middle Age Russ wrote:
They can find this private conversation from over 10 years ago and they CAN'T FIND THE 35,000 MISSING EMAILS?
The Progressives are simply fantastic at digging, whether it is digging for some sort of dirt on non-progressive candidate, or digging furiously to keep their dead bodies buried. Either way, they are earth moving machines.
They are far worse that that! Wasn't this supposed to be a town hall type of forum? How does Anderson Pooper get away with asking his own questions, in a prosecutorial manner, less than 5 minutes in? The whole thing was rigged against Trump and he still pulled it out!
by Bitter Clinger
Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:11 pm
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

philip964 wrote:So a private conversation between Donald Trump and Billy Bush (no relationship that I know with the former Presidents) was recorded with a hot mike. This occurred over ten years ago.
So wait, wait...

They can find this private conversation from over 10 years ago and they CAN'T FIND THE 35,000 MISSING EMAILS?

REALLY? REALLY? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
by Bitter Clinger
Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:45 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

NiMexicatl wrote:
parabelum wrote:NiMexicatl,

It looks from few of your posts that you are reasonable , intelligent young fella. If you love your carry rig and your Sig, understand that the criminal witch (plenty of evidence to support this out there) will work steadfastly to strip that right you have to carry now away from you, and all of us here.

The entire Lib party is nothing more then subversive group that for hundreds of years sat on backs of slaves and minority groups. Working very hard to keep the ghettos nice and full.

Not to support one candidate who stands to preserve your 2A right is, at the very least, a slap to your reason and intelligence.

She is pure evil my friend.
I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.

I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.

Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
I call applesauce.
by Bitter Clinger
Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:06 pm
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

NiMexicatl wrote:To put it simply, I honestly don't think there's much at this point that can convince me to vote Trump. It's my opinion and I honestly don't see him winning this election.

As far as my support for the 2A, I think focus taken away from holding congress responsible is a step in the wrong direction.

If people (in a general sense) start putting the fear that they'll have to do their job and respect the best interest of those they represent and the constitution it is my opinion that restoration of gun rights will be better served. It's probably not a realistic picture any time soon, but I feel it's the truth.

Yes the president holds power and can drive issues to the fore front, but ultimately the bulk of this kind of thing is supposed to be shouldered by the ones we elect to represent us.

This country has a really good system set in place, based on a really good ideological foundation. It's sad to see the way it operates some times and how things as important as the 2A can be trivialised as debateble by some. I don't know what else to say other than it's dissapointing. As are a lot of things, but hey thats life.
So, thanks for sharing but how about some more insight into what issues drive you to this "opinion"? Honestly I am trying to understand if its generational or something else? We all know that Hillary is a serial liar and an unconvicted felon. She is outspoken in her desire to abolish the 2nd amendment and she will make it even more difficult for people to find meaningful employment. She is simply a continuation of the failed policies of Barack Obama, including the ceding of global influence to the Russians and the Iranians.

Trump's policy positions will lead to strong borders, strong military, and a strong economy...and he is beholden to no one.

I have been surprised by discussions concerning this upcoming election in many ways. Most recently my sister, a Ph.D., commented to me that after seeing the first debate, she was convinced by Hillary (!), to vote for Trump. On the other hand, I have a younger friend, again college educated and working in the commercial banking arena and who I would expect to lean conservative (?), but he seems to favor Hillary. It is simply astounding to me.

Please help me to understand if you can, thanks!
by Bitter Clinger
Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:46 pm
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

Barack Hussein Obama has almost destroyed the US. If Hillary is elected, she will finish the job. And Soros will have gotten his money's worth.

Let's review the 8 rules of Saul Alinsky just in case you have not done so yet:

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist State. The first is the most important.

1. Healthcare: "Control Healthcare and you control the People.” DONE!!!

2. Poverty: “Increase the Poverty level as high as possible." Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live. ] DONE!!!

3. Debt: “Increase the National Debt to an unsustainable level." That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty. DONE!!!

4. Gun Control: “Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government." That way you are able to create a Police State - total local control. ALMOST THERE!!!

5. Welfare:“Take control of every aspect of their lives" (Food, Livestock, Housing, and Income). DONE!!!

6. Education: “Take control of what people read & listen to, take control of what children learn in school.” ALMOST THERE!!!

7. Religion: “Remove faith in God from the Government and School.” ALMOST THERE!!!

8. Class Warfare: “Divide the people into the wealthy against the poor. Racial division also works. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with full support of the voting poor." DONE!!!

Do you still think not voting for Trump is a good idea? That you will feel better because you have "stuck to your principles"? Really? Its not about you, its about the country, and it is close to being lost!
by Bitter Clinger
Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:03 am
Forum: Anti-gun propaganda and other lies!
Topic: Still won't vote for Trump?
Replies: 232
Views: 50371

Re: Still won't vote for Trump?

parabelum wrote:Pence it is.

I'm glad it wasn't Gingrich, and especially Christie.

http://www.rollcall.com/mike-pence-chos ... p-nominee/
:iagree:

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