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Allons wrote:

Paladin wrote:

Flightmare wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/us/browa ... index.html

Broward County sheriff's deputies took a largely symbolic vote of no confidence against embattled Sheriff Scott Israel, but their leader says he plans to press the issue with Florida Gov. Rick Scott and ask him to reconsider the sheriff's position.

The Broward Sheriff's Office Deputies Association vote was 534-94, with union President Jeff Bell vowing to ask Scott to consider removing Israel and praising the "great courage" of members who voted "under threat of retaliation and reprisal."

That's a pretty solid vote of no confidence. Israel needs to go. I think basket weaving better aligns with his skillset

534-94: I don't see why you would want to stay.

To borrow a phrase from "An officer and a gentleman", perhaps he has no where else to go

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=an ... &FORM=VIRE

ajwakeboarder wrote:

SewTexas wrote:somewhat related question.....a friend is posting memes that this is the "29th" school shooting of the year? Where can I find the truth?

Ben Shapiro just made an excellent video on this topic on his facebook page

Start by defining the term "school shooting".

This is like every other term that the democrats have attempted to distort. They just expand the scope of terms to the point that those terms have no meaning whatsoever. To take just one example, if everyone you disagree with is a racist, then is racism even a bad thing anymore?

It's no wonder that congress can't agree on anything when its impossible to even talk to half of the people there because we no longer share a common understanding of key terminology.

MechAg94 wrote:From what I have heard about most of those mass shooters, they generally stop as soon as they meet armed resistance (or unarmed sometimes). Many times one armed person firing back in enough. They just need to be in the right place to do it. How many armed people you need to insure someone is there when needed is an open question.

My kids attend Seven Lakes High School in Katy, which is a very physically large school. Thinking about that location, I would say that 5 or so security personnel, properly positioned, could get in range of a shooter within a couple minutes of the first shots being fired. In addition to a stipend / supplement for willing teachers, maybe also allow parents to get certified and volunteer their time. The elementary schools in my area have something called DOGS (Dads Of Great Students), where dad's volunteer to help with school drop off, and other tasks. And we can easily muster more than 5 volunteers at a time for an elementary school which has a fraction of the students / parents compared to a high school.

Now if you are asking about how many would be needed to insure that no shooter ever gets even one shot off? Well that would be a lot more. But any progress in the direction of fewer casualties is good, IMHO.

flechero wrote:I agree with the cultural problems, and that’s obviously much more difficult to address.

Why can’t Republicans introduce a bill that would fund the salaries of armed officers in every school in America. The cost of this should be minimal compared to the impact of the tax cuts recently passed. It is time for action it is time for conservatives to step up and actually put forth something to help protect our children.

That would defeat the arguments from most of the left and still provide an extra measure of security and safety of children… This would truly be for the children and would not push any “conservative “agendas of allowing teachers or civilians armed in the schools.

It won’t prevent all of the tragedies and all of the shootings but it would certainly help to minimize the number of incidents and the carnage that takes place at an incident.

There were two armed Sheriffs deputies at this school in Florida. It's going to take a lot more than 1 or 2 people. Offer a salary supplement to teachers who get certified as part of a security detail. That's a better option, IMHO.