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Jeesy Chreesy!

as a caveat, it's hard to pose an argument when you don't believe in the cause!
like I said, just trying to *play* devil's advocate
And to Flintock The Mighty, nicely done, sir.

oh, and ETA, yes, they actually do teach telepathy and other forms of ESP in the academy. you just have to go to the "cool" cities to learn.

okay, I'ma gon' play devil's advocate for a moment. (the following does not necessarily reflect my opinion)

Say you have a department, and you run into this issue that a fat chunk of citations given either don't pay, or fail to appear. This in turn means more warrants for stupid stuff, which is an increase in cost, time...
so, now you have to serve this warrant, and all the info you have is that person's last known address. Who knows if they still live there or what...
anyway, the majority of the time, you can't serve a warrant to someone's home cause, well, they ain't there. so, whatcha gon' do?
hey, let's get'em at work.
well, how do we do that?
when we write the citation, let's get their work info.
alright, so now let's look at this policy. Is it illegal? nope, ain't illegal to ask someone where they work. a cop can pretty much ask you anything, you don't wanna answer, you don't have to. does asking someone where they work trample their rights? nope, if it did, you couldn't put it down on a job application.
if a cop gets the impression you do not plan to pay your fine, or at the very least appear in court, he has the legal authority to take you to jail. he had this authority *before* he asked you for your job info, so what's the difference?

there ya go, tear that argument to shreds and let's go from there.

pt145ss wrote:I plan on responding to the chief with something similar to the letter below:

Mr. Blake:

I appreciate your response to my recent inquiry about Kyle PD policies.

Please be assured that I am not questioning your integrity or your 30 + years of experience and I salute you and all your colleagues for your selfless service to our community.

I must admit though that I am a little disappointed with your response. All though you do not say it directly, it seems that you insinuate that one could be placed in custodial arrest for refusing to answer questions about employment.

Sincerely,
Jim

Although.

good job, otherwise.

Well, I have some perspective to add to this.
just got off the phone with a buddy o' mine that just happens to be a Cop. He tol' me that yeah, he gets that info anytime he writes a citation. if they don't give that info, he just writes refused on the ticket, and he said the judge who sees the case will typically drop the hammer on the person for not obliging the cop. The reasoning being that the cop is just "doing his job" and doesn't want someone harassing him on the side of the road.
and yes he can take you to jail for that. but he's not likely to do that unless he has reason to think you're not going to pay, or you're not going to show.
He also said the reason for obtaining the work addy/phone # is for warrants. He said while serving warrants, he only got like 3 people at home, and the other hunnerd or so at their place of work.
he further said that if you tell him "self-employed" he's not worried about it.

I asked him how long this has been going on, and he said A Long Time. "If you ain't heard that question, you obviously hadn't gotten a ticket in a while!"

so thur ya urr.

jes' hand'em yer CHL badge, man.