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by ninjabread
Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:50 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:LEOs often do not issue a citation when drivers don't have their driver's license on their person. They do so because they are able to quickly confirm they have a license with a computer check. A provisional vote is not confirmed as an actual vote until and unless the person is ultimately determined to be properly registered as a voter.
If a LEO can quickly confirm someone has a license to drive with a computer check then confirming someone has a license to carry should be just as easy. I know driving without a license in ones possession is "punishable by a fine not to exceed $200" and I think the penalty for carrying a concealed handgun without the license in ones possession should have a similar punishment, not a threat of jail time. Being properly licensed but forgetting your ID at home should not lead to a class A misdemeanor, and definitely should not escalate to a felony of the third degree in a grocery store.
by ninjabread
Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
ninjabread wrote:I think very few would object to a LTC that followed the voter registration model.

1. shall issue
2. no cost to apply
3. no fingerprints unless voter registration also requires fingerprints
4. not required to carry LTC while carrying a gun (per voter ID rulings)
5. not required to carry ID when carrying a gun (per voter ID rulings)
6. easy add-on when renewing driving license (per motor voter)

what else?
I used voter registration as an example of requiring government approval to engage in a constitutionally protected activity. It's not a one-size-fits-all gold standard.

I agree with your first three points, but not the others. You are required to show identification when engaging in the activity that required voter registration, i.e. voting. It can be your voter registration card or your driver's license if you are registered to vote and are on the rolls. If you are required to have a license to carry a handgun, then requiring you to have that license on you when engaging in the activity that requires a license would be in keeping with my voter registration example.

We considered adding CHL to your driver's license as a "restriction" code, but there was much opposition. Many people simply didn't want anyone to be able to see they had a CHL. When the CHL was extended to five years duration, it made it impossible to add it to a driver's license that had a four year duration that has grown to six years. If we go over five years on the LTC, we lose NICS exemption.

Chas.
I suggested motor voter as an example of how easy it should be to get a LTC for qualified people. Voter registration isn't printed on my DL and my voter registration expiration is independent of my DL expiration. Furthermore, my voter registration renews automatically at no charge, which seems like a reasonable cost for other civil rights permission cards.

I agree with you on requiring people to carry their LTC as soon as (a) people have to carry their DL to drive legally and (b) people can't cast provisional ballots without their voter card. There's no 66th Amendment protecting the right to own and operate motor vehicles, so carrying a handgun without a license in your immediate possession should be no worse an offense than operating a motor vehicle without a license in your immediate possession. (in principle)
by ninjabread
Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:31 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

I think very few would object to a LTC that followed the voter registration model.

1. shall issue
2. no cost to apply
3. no fingerprints unless voter registration also requires fingerprints
4. not required to carry LTC while carrying a gun (per voter ID rulings)
5. not required to carry ID when carrying a gun (per voter ID rulings)
6. easy add-on when renewing driving license (per motor voter)

what else?
by ninjabread
Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

I thought reducing the fee to $40 is going to cause a flood of new LTC applicants, so why do we need unlicensed carry? :evil2:
by ninjabread
Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

I'll celebrate when it gets out of Calendars.
by ninjabread
Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 131453

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

Blood in the streets! :willynilly:

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