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by Keith B
Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:06 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire
Replies: 25
Views: 44446

Re: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:50 am
Keith B wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:58 am
carlson1 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:54 am Legal question. When he was shooting at the suspect as the suspect ran away if he had hit him in the back would this be a different story since the shooter was running away? Was there still a threat?

Of course all of this is Monday morning quarterbacking.
In the case of a police officer, they can use deadly force to stop a person fleeing from a felony.
John Correia of ASP says…and he says that this applies to armed citizens as well as LEOs…"it’s not WHERE you shot them, it’s WHY you shot them that matters."

If an assailant is shooting at you as he runs off or a quartering away from you, and you return fire and hit him in the back, unless the prosecutor's parents weren’t married, you would be subject to the same legal self defense standards as if you had shot the BG in the chest while facing each other. There’s also the matter of what the BG does between your perception of the need to defend yourself, your decision to shoot, and when the neural command reaches your trigger finger. Maybe he turned his back between when you saw the need to shoot, decided to shoot, and actually shot. The WHY versus WHERE standard accommodates this.

That is my understanding of things.
That’s my understanding too. If you feel he is still a threat and is running toward others, etc, then you have the legal justification to use force, including deadly force, to stop him (in most states that is)
by Keith B
Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:58 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire
Replies: 25
Views: 44446

Re: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire

carlson1 wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:54 am Legal question. When he was shooting at the suspect as the suspect ran away if he had hit him in the back would this be a different story since the shooter was running away? Was there still a threat?

Of course all of this is Monday morning quarterbacking.
In the case of a police officer, they can use deadly force to stop a person fleeing from a felony.
by Keith B
Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:28 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire
Replies: 25
Views: 44446

Re: Deputy Shot - Return 12 Rounds of Fire

This is a perfect example of panic mode reaction. Even if you’ve trained and trained for it, the adrenaline will be flowing and muscle control will be all over the place.

I alway shake my head at those who say they don’t carry one in the chamber “because they have practiced and can ‘rack one in’ within a half second’. Their practice is usually not drawing from concealment, and they are preparing to shoot. Add that it’s a total surprise and they have to start from zero, and they’ll be lucky to get drawn, much less chamber a round and fire before they’ve had multiple rounds headed their way.

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