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by The Annoyed Man
Tue May 28, 2013 12:15 am
Forum: Hunting Photos
Topic: Pig caught in a snare
Replies: 43
Views: 20229

Re: Pig caught in a snare

nyj wrote:And I've seen hogs take more than 2 shots of .223 and keep truckin'. Like I said, if you don't have a good shot, don't take it. Simple hunting ethics.
Of course you're correct. Many of us here are hunters too, myself included, and would agree with the above. That said, you might have missed his response a couple of posts down from your original snipe at him: viewtopic.php?p=802213#p802213" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
johncanfield wrote:Huh? :confused5 First off, I didn't place the snare, but I'm very glad it caught a wild hog. You apparently don't understand the problem with the hogs. The pistol rounds were very effective in dispatching the hog, I love wildlife and do not want to see any of God's creatures suffer.
....none of which suggests that he did anything unethical.......unless that's what we want it to say because we've backed ourselves into a corner and don't want to admit that we might have jumped the gun, so to speak. :mrgreen:

We also know from his posting record that johncanfield is an experienced hunter who, more recently, has been hunting hogs with an AR10.....and yet even a .308 can occasionally fail to put a hog down with one shot, even a properly placed shot. There are no absolute guarantees in hunting, even if you do everything right. He's also trying to keep hogs off his land, from which he earns his livelihood, so for him it's not just a sport hunting issue, it's a pest abatement issue which is important to the feeding of his family.

I have a friend who has a large pecan orchard down near Elgin....about 92 acres if I recall correctly. He traps hogs on his property because shooting them with a rifle poses certain dangers due to other people's homes being near the edges of his property. You can't just shoot in any direction, and yet he has a real need to get rid of the hogs because they tear up his infrastructure. So he traps them, and then caps them with a .38 caliber revolver—"less gun" than a 9mm—and it works like a champ.
by The Annoyed Man
Mon May 27, 2013 5:31 pm
Forum: Hunting Photos
Topic: Pig caught in a snare
Replies: 43
Views: 20229

Re: Pig caught in a snare

nyj wrote:
RJGold wrote:I've killed a bunch of pigs with 22 mag shots behind the ears...

They didn't suffer, I assure you...
Nothing wrong with that. A "couple of shots" isn't my idea of humane dispatching.
For all you know, it was a quick double tap, and the 2nd shot was unnecessary insurance. The OP doesn't state that he shot the pig.....stood around there picking his nose for a while and then shot it again. He says "A couple of hollow points from my M&P 9mm compact handgun sent him to a happier place." No other details than that. I think everyone here agrees that it is best to dispatch an animal humanely if at all possible, but nothing the OP said indicates that he did not do so. He only says he used to rounds. For all we know, they may have been fired .5 seconds apart. How many deer have been hit more than once with a .300 Win Mag, when nobody will argue that this is insufficient cartridge for a deer? It happens....not often....but it does happen. Some animals just die harder than others, and even if there had been some elapsed time between the shots, it might not be anything other than this kind of a deal.

I've seen videos on YouTube of hogs being dispatched with air rifles....meaning a .177 caliber 25 grain pellet traveling at about the same speed as a 125 grain 9mm bullet. Those hogs dropped like a sack of nickels. Were they not humanely dispatched?

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