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Y'all are right. My descriptions of how people feel about safety is based on my observations of lots of people who don't get too involved in the debates and just believe the stuff they're fed about guns being so many times more likely to shoot you or a family member than a home invader. But these are the people we need to win over to advance our cause.

For those in power, and those leading the movement, gun control isn't about guns but about control. Cliche, but so true. They want you to depend on the police to protect you, depend on the government to make sure your needs are met. This gives them a reason for being and reinforces their control. We're not going to win them over to our side. Best we can hope for is to keep them convinced that we have enough votes to fire them if they get too out of control.

stealthfightrf17 wrote:How will this not necceserally make the campuses safer. Hello, if you want to rob or rape someone and you know they may have a gun, or some one close by might, you would think twice and probabbly not do it.

That is the main disconnect right there. We believe, with good reason, that more armed good guys makes for a safer environment.

They believe that more guns mean more potential for accidents and that far outweighs any possible, minor, effect we may have on actually stopping a crime.
(Plus, I think many of them suspect that most of us are borderline nuts and right on the edge of going on a killing spree at any moment. That's why you get arguments about students shooting professors over bad grades )

We want to carry guns. Why? Safety.
They want to keep our guns out. Why? Safety.
That's the sticking point where neither side can convince the other.