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ScottDLS wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:29 pm Per the Legislature tracking website, it's signed. Tomorrow there may be a signing ceremony at the Alamo, but it will be like the the giant check that lottery hands out when you win the Powerball....it's not the one you take to the bank and deposit.
I use to think that too. Until they shut down an intersection at the border of Plano and Frisco and got away with it.crazy2medic wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:01 pmThing is this ain't Portland, DPS would take great delight in REMOVING Leftest Loons!03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:34 pmI had the thought that they may not want to give a lot of notice of a signing ceremony to reduce the risk of leftist loons showing up to protest the bill.oljames3 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:34 pmAbbott had/has hundreds of bills to sign from the 87th legislature. Also, it takes time to arrange a suitable location, media coverage, and to ensure the all of the notable folks can attend. Similar to signing the bill that provides for carrying openly, Abbott wants to make a show. Good for him and good for us.dru wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:30 pm > No. In Texas, when a bill passes within 10 days of final adjournment, the Governor has 20 days from the day of final adjournment to sign or veto the bill or it becomes law without his signature. https://www.house.texas.gov/about-us/bill/
Ah, thanks for clarifying. Well either way he's running short on time. I can't imagine he lets this go without taking a victory lap on it. It makes me wonder why he's taking his time with the bill. I know it doesn't change the effective date but geez.....
I had the thought that they may not want to give a lot of notice of a signing ceremony to reduce the risk of leftist loons showing up to protest the bill.oljames3 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:34 pmAbbott had/has hundreds of bills to sign from the 87th legislature. Also, it takes time to arrange a suitable location, media coverage, and to ensure the all of the notable folks can attend. Similar to signing the bill that provides for carrying openly, Abbott wants to make a show. Good for him and good for us.dru wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:30 pm > No. In Texas, when a bill passes within 10 days of final adjournment, the Governor has 20 days from the day of final adjournment to sign or veto the bill or it becomes law without his signature. https://www.house.texas.gov/about-us/bill/
Ah, thanks for clarifying. Well either way he's running short on time. I can't imagine he lets this go without taking a victory lap on it. It makes me wonder why he's taking his time with the bill. I know it doesn't change the effective date but geez.....
The neighbor is obviously incorrect but it has made me wonder how many others will operate under the same misconception. I can definitely imagine people reading or hearing it is legal to carry and not being aware that there are places it is not allowed. Kind of like the folks who proclaim the governor said no more mask mandates while standing in a private business refusing to follow their guidelines to enter.TxRVer wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:23 ampowerboatr wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:30 pmthe hyper links embedded in the online version made that a bit easier, but still Its a whole lot to absorb. i will read it at least 100 more times and make notes and cheat sheets to help explain it to my better half.ScottDLS wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:23 pmI think it will be a little easier when the LTC-16 2021/22 comes out (assuming they still keep printing it). The hard part until then is to read the existing statutes and then going back to the bill and see what they change/replace.powerboatr wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 4:25 pmScottDLS wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 pm ....
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Te ... ll=HB1927
There is also some hearing information and legislative briefs from when the bill was being debated there as well.
thanks i bookmarked and saved a copy to my computer. made my head hurt after 30 minutes. it will take some time to digest it
but according to my new neighbor that is building a house over from us, this new law will let him carry open everywhere and i mean everywhere so he tells me..
If you only watch the local news for your information, you could come away with that misconception. They only tell you that unlicensed/untrained people will be able to carry.
Just the same. I don't understand why he has not signed it yet. Is it some kind of political game? Let it pass and then claim he didn't sign it if confronted by leftist scum?
The Annoyed Man wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 7:57 amThis is great news. I’ve been wanting forever to ankle-carry a j-frame BUG while wearing cargo shorts.Papa_Tiger wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 6:54 pmBased on my analysis, we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act and we get the "belt and shoulder" restriction removed from our holster choices.K.Mooneyham wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 6:39 pm Does this bill really change anything in regards to those who have their LTC? Or will that remain business as usual?
I am not engaging with you until you apologize for being rude and arrogant . Even then I am thinking the ignore button may be useful as I don't really like rude arrogant people.Papa_Tiger wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:25 pmWhich of the accepted Senate amendments, in your opinion, was a poison pill according to that definition?03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:21 pmloscar141 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:12 pm just out of curiosity what would be considered a poison pill?en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wrecking_amendment
In legislative debate, a wrecking amendment (also called a poison pill amendment or killer amendment) is an amendment made by a legislator who disagrees with the principles of a bill and who seeks to make it useless (by moving amendments to either make the bill malformed and nonsensical, or to severely change its intent) rather than directly opposing the bill by simply voting against it.
loscar141 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:12 pm just out of curiosity what would be considered a poison pill?
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wrecking_amendment
In legislative debate, a wrecking amendment (also called a poison pill amendment or killer amendment) is an amendment made by a legislator who disagrees with the principles of a bill and who seeks to make it useless (by moving amendments to either make the bill malformed and nonsensical, or to severely change its intent) rather than directly opposing the bill by simply voting against it.
Why did you have to throw the left handed insult in your authoritative response? Could you not have simply made your statement and left out the pompous comment? Just who do you think you are? Now get off my lawn.Papa_Tiger wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 6:40 pmBefore you start making authoritative statements, you should see what is in the final bill. There may still be things in it that you would have considered a "poison pill" but are part of the compromises made when crafting law.03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pmPatrick just had to throw in his crappola about how innocent they were of accusations of poison pills. Politicians make me sick to my stomach. What actually happened is they got inundated by those of us calling and emailing explaining that our vote for them depended on this passing and they decided that poison pill was a bad idea after all. Had Texans not responded in force, that bill would be dead. JMHOELB wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 5:18 pm Lt Gov Patrick's announcement:
https://www.ltgov.texas.gov/2021/05/21/ ... agreement/
Patrick just had to throw in his crappola about how innocent they were of accusations of poison pills. Politicians make me sick to my stomach. What actually happened is they got inundated by those of us calling and emailing explaining that our vote for them depended on this passing and they decided that poison pill was a bad idea after all. Had Texans not responded in force, that bill would be dead. JMHOELB wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 5:18 pm Lt Gov Patrick's announcement:
https://www.ltgov.texas.gov/2021/05/21/ ... agreement/
Tex1961 wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 8:23 pmI hate when people do that, give us news or don’t.Flightmare wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 8:17 pm Rep Schaefer just posted on social media;
I'm hoping this is in reference to 1927Big Second Amendment news for Texas coming very soon! #2A
