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The Annoyed Man wrote:
mrvmax wrote:This bandage was mentioned on another board and it’s got some added features that make it pretty useful to stop bleeding.
https://www.rescue-essentials.com/israeli-t3-bandage-4/
Either the Israeli or the Olaes Modular Bandage is a good choice. I personally prefer the Olaes. But you should also have either some Celox gauze ribbon or Quickclot combat gauze clotting agents to pack the wound with under the dressing.....although if you cut an artery of any significance, it will overwhelm the clotting agent eventually. But a clotting agent WITH pressure applied by an Israeli or Olaes dressing will usually do trick. Also, make sure you add at SOFTT-WIDE tourniquet to your kit.

Thanks, there has been plenty of good information in this thread, I will have to add some of those to my kit.

mrvmax

This bandage was mentioned on another board and it’s got some added features that make it pretty useful to stop bleeding.
https://www.rescue-essentials.com/israeli-t3-bandage-4/

mrvmax

LDB415 wrote:Just didn't get enough of the medical people and hospitals when you had your GB surgery huh. Seriously though, I'm glad you weren't hurt worse.

Can’t seem to stay away from the doctors for some reason.

mrvmax

Abraham wrote:O.K.

Someone please suggest (if such exists) a trauma kit that I can buy off the shelf.

I've been stitched up more than once, sometimes my fault to have it done, sometimes not...

I'm just now learning how to use a circular saw. I've used it twice on rather (for me) major building and repairing my deck projects. Circular saws terrify me more than a chain saw. Most especially after watching a documentary about ER docs where a patient came in after already sawing off 2 of his fingers awhile back, to go on to finish the job, all with a circular saw. Now, all he has on hand is a thumb. He admitted, he was in a hurry to finish his project and instead finished his hand.

Last week, due to carelessness, I cut my thumb so bad it bled like mad. I tried to bandage it by myself and didn't care to mention it, but couldn't get it done without my wife's help. I was embarrassed. I like to think I can do everything without help. Wrong. She was horrified as my hand looked something out of a horror movie.

All that aside, if a respected trauma kit is made 'off the shelf' (please advise where and what model kit to buy) I'll invest in one or if someone who knows how to come up with a table of contents if you will of what to put together, please advise.

Thanks!

P.S. I couldn't bear to read all the injury posts as I started to feel nauseous - that said, if what I requested is already suggested, please advise and I'll read all the posts, nausea inducing or not.

I never found one I liked that had what I wanted so I assembled it myself. All the kits I saw were expensive and had very little in them. Hopefully someone here can post a source for a decent kit. FYI I’ve been told the Israeli bandages are good for stopping bleeding since they hold pressure. Both the Israeli and NAR trauma bandages are for sale on Amazon.

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RPBrown wrote:Glad it wasn't worse and you will be okay.

I've told this story on here before but it's worth a laugh again. First though, do you ever wonder if doctors and nurses in an ER ever talk to one another or even read a patients chart. I'll explain during this story.
Several years ago we (I) was separating some of our pond plants. I was in shorts and flip flops (yeah, I know) and was squatted down with a plant in front of me and a razor knife in my hand. Now I had already separated several others in this same fashion but my wife walks out, sees me and the very first thing she says is "your going to cut yourself like that". Of course I look at her with that "I know what I am doing look" and the very next slice down the knife slips and punctures my ankle. There is a very small but pulsing stream of blood coming out. I put my thumb on it to stop the bleeding and after I had to hear "I told you so" a few times, she takes me to the ER. First, have you ever seen an old fat man walk while holding is ankle. Not a pretty sight. Anyway, the firs nurse brings out a wheel chair for me and proceeds to ask what happened. We told her and she puts it all in the chart they are building. She then takes me in to another nurse that takes my vitals and she asks me what happened. I told her and she writes in the chart. She then puts a pressure bandage on it so I can straighten up and wheels me into a room. During the next hour of waiting, 2 additional nurses came in to check on me and both asked the same thing, "what happened". Both wrote it down in the chart. Finally the doctor comes in sits down, looks at the chart, looks at my ankle, and asks "what happened". By now I am a little irritated and decided to become a bit sarcastic. I looked at my wife and saw the "oh no" look on her face and then I told him " well I decided to end it all by puncturing my ankle". My wife lost it and spewed coffee but the doc closes the chart, leans back and says " Mr. Brown, do you have these feelings often?" I asked him point blank, how many times the cause of my injury was actually written in my chart and he said 5. I said why, no one reads it. He then had the nurse put some antiseptic on the puncture, put in 1 stitch and discharged me.

I really do not mind them asking me how it happened but I don't like the fact that the initial ER dr. that looked at the cut missed the fact that an artery was cut and they left me bleeding for 20-30 minutes. After he removed the pressure bandages to looked at the cut he said it wasn't as bad as the Urgent care dr. stated and it only required a few sutures. He said they would get an x-ray to make sure the bone was not cut and Instead of putting a pressure dressing back on he handed me the bloody dressing he pulled off that urgent care applied and asked me to hold it on the cut. It was about 15 minutes before they came to x-ray it and it was after that that I got fed up with blood running out of the blood soaked bandage before I had to ask a nurse to stop the bleeding. When the second dr. went to put in the sutures he found out why the bleeding was hard to stop, an artery was cut and the first dr. missed that. The first dr. came in to tell him something unrelated and dr #2 told him that an artery was cut. Dr. #1 just walked out and didn't say anything. I also realized talking to my wife that they never cleaned the wound, they sewed me up without ever cleaning it out with an antiseptic. My wife was there the entire time so it wasn't just me forgetting. I had to call my primary care dr. this morning to see if he would prescribe antibiotics so I do not get an infection since the cut was so deep and I was using a razor knife that I cut no telling what with. I realize these guys are busy but it seems like too many minor issues and this is why I have an aversion to doctors.

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Did something stupid today and sliced open my leg with a razor knife (the cut was at least 1/4")so needless to say I was bleeding quite profusely. The good thing is that last year I put together a decent first aid/trauma kit with some trauma bandages and other stuff I thought I may eventually need. I actually did not remember I had it at first due to the adrenaline after seeing the cut and focusing on how bad the cut was. I cut myself in the garage and went inside and called for my daughter to assist me in stopping the bleeding and then for a ride to the ER. We grabbed some thin gauze pads we keep in the bathroom and those did little to slow the bleeding then I remembered the first aid kit. Two of the NAR Emergency Trauma dressings stopped the bleeding until I made it to the ER. They have a pretty thick absorbent pad built it with a long wrap and a closure to hold it tight. I will definitely be ordering more of those to restock the kit. I think it would be handy to have some in the vehicle for when I am away from home. I will probably start carrying some when I am hunting too. I was fortunate that I only cut a small artery but that bled bad enough, I do not really want to ever experience cutting a major artery.
So, lessons learned: First keep knifes away from your body when you are cutting, it only took a little slip to cut myself pretty deep. In my 48 years I have never cut myself that bad. Second, have a good first aid kit and keep it where it can be found quickly. I had mine buried in my office under a bunch of paperwork and other stuff so it took longer than necessary to get to it. Third, I realized if my daughter would not have been home I would have had to get an ambulance ride. My truck has a manual transmission so there was no way I could depress the clutch with a big gash on my leg. My wife was gone with the car so my daughter was my only option to get to the ER. I never really considered not being able to shift with an injury but fortunately I had someone else around. Living in Friendswood EMS is pretty close but I would hate to take that expensive ride to the ER. I will be more prepared the next time.

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