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ScottDLS wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:23 pm

powerboatr wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:25 pm

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 pm ....

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Te ... ll=HB1927

There is also some hearing information and legislative briefs from when the bill was being debated there as well.

thanks i bookmarked and saved a copy to my computer. made my head hurt after 30 minutes. it will take some time to digest it

I think it will be a little easier when the LTC-16 2021/22 comes out (assuming they still keep printing it). The hard part until then is to read the existing statutes and then going back to the bill and see what they change/replace.

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:30 pm So is there a thread where one could find out everything about this new constitutional carry? I saw a map and Texas was listed as a constitutional carry state.

Does it affect LTC or me at all?

Did it really pass?

What are the new rules?

I assume there are rules?

I didn't pay much attention, as I thought it probably would not happen, but I understand it really happened. So now I'm interested.

Were there any changes for LTC folks? Carry in bars? Signs are only for non LTC?

My assumption is that nothing really changed except a criminal will have to be convicted of his first crime before he can't carry a gun? So on his arrests, he isn't charged with a gun crime, until he is convicted for the first time?

Or were there some cool things I need to know?

I plan on keeping my LTC regardless as it is very helpful after boating accidents.

Well, it's still awaiting the Governors action, but likely that's just a formality. On this thread many of us have been trying to understand the new rules (aka law). I guess the best place to start is to read the enrolled version of the bill itself.

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Te ... ll=HB1927

There is also some hearing information and legislative briefs from when the bill was being debated there as well.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:05 pm

ELB wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 pm GOA's summary of bill: https://texas.gunowners.org/hb-1927-fin ... es-it-say/

Assuming Gov. Abbott signs HB 1927

If he doesn't after saying he would, he is making the most serious political mistake of his career as he is about to start campaigning for re-election.

Vol Texan wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:54 pm It appears to have passed completely!
Now on to the governor’s desk.

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:40 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pm

ELB wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:18 pm Lt Gov Patrick's announcement:

https://www.ltgov.texas.gov/2021/05/21/ ... agreement/

Patrick just had to throw in his crappola about how innocent they were of accusations of poison pills. Politicians make me sick to my stomach. What actually happened is they got inundated by those of us calling and emailing explaining that our vote for them depended on this passing and they decided that poison pill was a bad idea after all. Had Texans not responded in force, that bill would be dead. JMHO

Before you start making authoritative statements, you should see what is in the final bill. There may still be things in it that you would have considered a "poison pill" but are part of the compromises made when crafting law.

ETA: There is lots of evidence that this was worked on very hard by many members in both chambers INCLUDING the Lieutenant Governor.

1) It proceeded through the house rapidly
2) When it got to the Senate, a SPECIAL COMMITTEE, just for this bill was set up and staffed with many pro-2A Senators by Lt. Gov. Patrick.
3) The committee met quickly and voted out the House version of the bill without modifications.
4) The Senate acted quickly once it left the committee and allowed/voted on minimal amendments that helped to secure the votes of the Senators required to pass it including Senator Nelson.
5) While the House didn't concur with the amendments added in the Senate, both chambers acted quickly to appoint overall favorable members to the conference committees with LOTS of time to spare in the session.
6) Agreement between chambers was reached with 9 days left in the session. That is faster than both Open and Campus Carry in 2015.

All of the doom and gloom poison pill prognosticators need to watch a few legislative sessions before they start proclaiming themselves experts on the political process in Texas.

Flightmare wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:12 pm

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:58 pm Senate Conferees appointed: Schwertner (Chair) | Birdwell | Campbell | Creighton | Hughes

5 Republicans. Several who have been pretty staunch 2A supporters.

I agree that several of these are staunch 2A supporters. Keep in mind, 2 of them added amendments that caused this to go to conference committee in the first place.

chamberc wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:53 amTick Tock.

ELB wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 3:23 pm

powerboatr wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 3:08 pm not to wrinkle the fritos, but
i was reading all the adopted, withdrawn and failed amendments , referenced by our great folks here
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

but i saw this and thought, how did miss this and Super happy it died. it has lawsuit all over it and then lets make up a new law based on race ??

It was Senate Amendment F9 by Zafferini ("my" Senator ) and it failed. Not part of the bill. There were 27 amendments proposed in the Senate and only 8 were adopted.