our range is limited to 287 members, ( city thing) anyway i know by face probably 80%.Rafe wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pmI agree about the "Range Karens." And, quite honestly, I wouldn't be particularly concerned about the local, county, and even many of the Texas State LEOs jumping at the opportunity to demand NFA paperwork from somebody with an AR pistol...at least, not if they aren't shouldering it and peppering targets using a foregrip and other such add-ons. I wouldn't bet a felony arrest on it, though.powerboatr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:47 amthis made me wonder...does law enforcement frequent your local range to SEE what people have???Rafe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:35 am TL;DR: We're likely to win this battle...eventually. But the new rule went into effect at 00:00 today and even if you're an FPC member in Texas whose membership was active prior to their filing the injunction, don't take your pistol-with-brace combo to the range because you very well still might be arrested and have to defend your position.
From what I've seen so far, all plaintiffs who have filed, including GOA, are wanting the best possible chance at receiving an injunction for relief so they've kept the scope of the filings very narrow. But it's eventually going to take a case that addresses all owners of pistol braces who, for a decade, had been assured by the ATF that they were legal. And that might mean it will have to go to SCOTUS...and if so, we may not get this 2nd Amendment overreach overturned until 2025.
our range has one day a month for local police to practice and "STUFF" and range is closed during those 4 hrs, you can watch...just no firing line setup or shooting
other than that LEO are never there. but in some cities i guess it would be an easy picking day for leos
But in answer to LEOs frequenting the ranges I go to, yes; absolutely. You don't always know they're law enforcement because typically they're there shooting/training independently, not under the auspices of their department or precinct. The ranges do periodically have times blocked off for that purpose. But I gotta tell ya, it's the LEOs I've met over the years who actively practice on their own and do stuff like shoot IDPA/USPSA that I want showing up to an active scene. In most cases--and I don't want to over-generalize--I've seen a cavernous difference between LEOs who seriously train independently and the ones who simply want to get through the mandatory qualifying for the year.
But thinking back to one of the ranges, the now-closed Hot Wells Shooting Range (the property was officially listed for sale last February), they had a separate (short) range near the entrance for LEOs. I was allowed to shoot there since I'd passed several quals with the range instructors. But because it was a drop-in-anytime small range area dedicated to LEOs, I met folks ranging from uniformed county deputies to plain-clothes DEA and ATF. If I had an AR pistol with a brace on it, I wouldn't be pulling it out regardless...but certainly not if I had any inkling that some of LEOs might be federal.
whats good about our member rolls , is we list occupation and hobbies .. plus its almost a good ol boy club, everyone knows everyone's business and family
we have 4 police right now. we are not taking new members unless somebody dies or does not re-up
the 4 that are leo, are pretty straight forward and very personable, ( i would not be flashing anything might be questionable)
these folks hang out, shoot and carry on like the rest of us. i would hate to know if one of them "set" someone up , but its possible
it would most likely not go over well with management
i can say at our range, over the last 7 years i have been a member.. i could count on one finger the number of people that have been "talked to" by management for violations. Its really a good range as far as the membership we even have people that sweep up the firing line of spent brass when they are done.
