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by powerboatr
Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:38 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: UT: Utah axes gun-permit requirement
Replies: 19
Views: 20117

Re: UT: Utah axes gun-permit requirement

ScottDLS wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:11 pm
powerboatr wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:09 pm constitutional carry is great
i just like knowing folks i see carrying have had some sort of look see at their past criminal behavior if there was some.

when i see folks open carrying i at least know now they are less likely to go bat crap crazy, not NEVER, just less likely


plus for law enforcement

i know police like knowing if the person they just stopped has a license or not as it takes the level of danger down a notch as he or she approaches a vehicle.

they already are under attack like never before. It drives me nuts that our Highway patrol are patrolling as one man cars. we have lots of state highways that are dark and isolated unlike most city areas with local police.

limited government is always good, as i have said many times before. But i like a balance to protect everyone as best we can without crunching rights
How does the requirement to have a license let you know that someone you see carrying has had a background check and has a license?

How does a police officer know that someone they just stopped has a license or not? That requires an assumption that the person driving is the one the car is registered to and that they have a Texas license.

How do you know that people you see open carrying a handgun aren't going to go bat crap crazy because a license is required for such (open carry that is, not going bat crazy)? It seems someone willing to (illegally) go bat crap crazy also wouldn't mind illegally carrying.
actually police know in texas as soon as they run your tags, the dl numbers assigned to person/s comes up, along with if your are a chl or ltc. I know this first hand from past exp. yes the driver may not be the registered owner and yes they still approach with caution. there is no right answer, only mitigating risks if possible.
my view is if the license was granted, at least there was a background check by dps. again personal exp. they do go back at least 7 years, i got a call and had to explain the issue, on my 2nd renewal.. and yes we have no idea if a person is going to snap and start doing bad things . but imo if a back ground was done, that maybe this person is less prone to go postal or they find a reason or issue that maybe this person needs a 2nd look. not a definite, just an observation, it may or may not be true.
again limited government is best, but i also look at the leos that are charged with doing a real tough job. I know there are some that are not fit, but most are. so imo, any thing that gives them a warmer fuzzy as it where as they walk to your car, then i am for it....again in a limited sense.

as i have said and beat up my commissioners, police riding alone are targets. We are rural and have a huge county with lots of dark back roads and help being 20 minutes or longer away, if a stop goes wrong. its funny they send two or more to a Domestic call, but stop cars with just one all hours and places.
by powerboatr
Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:09 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: UT: Utah axes gun-permit requirement
Replies: 19
Views: 20117

Re: UT: Utah axes gun-permit requirement

constitutional carry is great
i just like knowing folks i see carrying have had some sort of look see at their past criminal behavior if there was some.

when i see folks open carrying i at least know now they are less likely to go bat crap crazy, not NEVER, just less likely


plus for law enforcement

i know police like knowing if the person they just stopped has a license or not as it takes the level of danger down a notch as he or she approaches a vehicle.

they already are under attack like never before. It drives me nuts that our Highway patrol are patrolling as one man cars. we have lots of state highways that are dark and isolated unlike most city areas with local police.

limited government is always good, as i have said many times before. But i like a balance to protect everyone as best we can without crunching rights

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