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Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:17 pm Good chance of being overturned on appeal. How much evidence, not feelings, but evidence do you need to NOT convict someone of murder?
Jury tampering by a sitting US Representative.

Rafe wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:09 pm Chauvin found guilty on all three counts.

srothstein wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:00 am So far, I have only one complaint with Mr. Branca's coverage of the trial. He has stated, repeatedly, that the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin is guilty, including showing the way he caused the death.

I agree with this in theory. That is the principle of our criminal judicial system in the US. But Mr. Branca is ignoring the fact that this is simply theory and the trial is a real life application. Neither I nor Mr. Branca get to decide what was proven by the prosecution or if there was reasonable doubt or what the cause of death was. The jury's get to decide this. And unfortunately, it is very very hard to get anyone to override the jury's decision. I personally believe that Mr. Nelson has shredded the prosecution's case at every turn so far, but I am irrelevant. The real questions is does the jury think so.

I believe that the best Mr. Chauvin can hope for right now is a hung jury. I am convinced that there are a few people on that jury who had their minds made up before the trial started and they will not let themselves be swayed by any facts. I also believe that there are a few on the jury who are going to do their best to give a fair and honest verdict. I only hope they are strong enough to stand by their convictions in the face of the pressure the other jurors will put on them, along with the fear of further riots or even personal threats.