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by sjfcontrol
Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:47 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
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Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

RKlenka wrote:Im one of the CHL instructors Shoot Smart picked up a few months back. You can't be surprised that they don't allow outside instructors. They are a business and a big part of it is CHL.

Finding a range around here is pretty difficult, so i did the whole 'well if you cant beat them join them'. Its pretty nice, I show up and the targets are already set ready to go. Just teach, test and sign. I don't think they could make it any easier for me.

Now a open range that allows movement beyond a small side step, with barricades and a shoot house...ah that would be something.
And I suppose THEY can't be surprised when outside instructors don't recommend ranges to their students that don't allow outside instructors -- or actually badmouth them when asked which ranges are good/bad. The fact is that 1) they would make money on the proficiency portion that they are now losing. 2) they would pick up those students brought in for testing for general range use and possibly firearms sales in the future.

It has always been my belief that we improve our business standing when we cooperate with others in our industry.
by sjfcontrol
Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:18 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11204

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

The_Busy_Mom wrote:
switch wrote:I talked w/my buddy. He did not have any trouble getting in w/Shoot Smart. Might want to talk to them again.

I don't understand why ranges will not let outside instructors come in. We are going to bring them new customers. If the customer likes the range, they are likely to come back.

Elk Castle will not let me qualify my students but said their instructors would for $15 (which is a steal - range fees are normally $17 - 20 at other ranges).
I would LOVE to know how he managed to get into Shoot Smart. I have qualified students there before, but I try to be very low key, and only on the private lanes. A few months back, they were hiring a CHL instructor, and I went to talk with the manager about what value I might be able to bring to their operation. I had already been told that they don't allow outside instructors, so I thought I might just contract out my CHL services to them. Not even close. You have to become an employee, which I would have done had there not been other issues. You have to teach their curriculum, and you cannot teach within a 30-mile radius of their store. I totally get their side of the story - this is their business, reputation, etc. Just wasn't what I was looking for. But this was long after I had been told no outside instructors. So I will take small groups there, like 1-4 students, but big groups go to either Quail Creek or Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville. I have taken probably 20-30 students to qualify at ShootSmart over the last year, and not 1 of them had even been into that particular range before. So it's free advertising for ShootSmart, they are still making money, and I get to qualify my students. Seems like it would be a win/win for all involved, but the great thing about America is that they can choose to set their own rules and run their own operation. Capitalism at its finest!!

:txflag: TBM
Couple of questions...

So, Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville allows outside instructors? I emailed them a couple of months back to see if that would be possible, and got no response (which I took as a 'NO').

ShootSmart doesn't allow outside instructors, so you only bring small groups there? Umm, wouldn't that be morally -- questionable?
by sjfcontrol
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:13 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11204

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

switch wrote:The range told me they had an exception but I decided to take my students to a different range.
Good decision. :cheers2:

I know a range that thought it was OK to use the "shortened" B-27E (economy?) targets. Don't know what was "excepted" in the past, but they were VERY clear in the instructor's renewal class that ONLY the full size B-27 target was acceptable.

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