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Sounds good .. I used to work in a University's Audio Visual Dept repairing/maintaining electronic stuff, after working in the college book store ... as "Staff"
All I could carry was a "barely legal" knife, I mean a box opening tool.

So there's more than one argument (reason) campus carry should pass, and as a subcategory of those, very good arguments (reasons) it should apply to all campuses too.

srothstein wrote:

RPB wrote:or via students paying tuition with government grants, (unknown millions) it's still government (my) tax dollars

I disagree. Once you give the money to the student as a grant, it is his money and not your tax dollars any longer. He may choose to use it for tuition at Texas State, Arizona State, or Rice, but it is his money he is spending.

At least, that is how I think of it. I get that from being told by my parents that I cannot give money as a gift and put limits on how they spend it.

When I got my grants, the school got the money, I picked the checks up at that school's financial aid office, I seriously doubt that after that, any people drop out of that school and run real fast to register for classes and matriculate at another and apply it towards tuition at another ... that school benefits from my tax money.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Ameer wrote:

RPB wrote:I have a problem with giving Rice millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer (my) money and allowing that.

Is that any different than a private company getting government research grants and posting 30.06? What about a company that gets most of its income from government contracts?

The question is where we should draw the line. On one side, I think definitely a public school or university shouldn't be able to post enforceable 30.06 signs, even for sports, and private residences that home school definitely should have that right, even in their driveway or on their lawn.

If a school/company gets paid to do a job, then it's earning the money whether it's building something or doing research. When a school gets free government money, then I don't think they should be exempt from campus-carry. I feel the same way if they get a total or partial tax exemption or tax break, including 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(4) status.

If a school wants to claim private status, then they need to be as private as Joe the Plumber; paying all taxes Joe pays, not getting any government money or assistance, etc.

Chas.

Especially with research and stimulus grants, BUT ALSO even to the extent that they shouldn't accept "Pell Grants" and "SEOG" and Texas Educational Opportunity Grant (TEOG) and Texas Public Education Grant (TPEG) etc etc if they want to claim to be "private" and an exemption from regulation. (acronyms/names may be different than when I was enrolled, but you know what I mean)
After all ... tuition ...that's a main source of "their" income from "our" dollars..

Ameer wrote:

RPB wrote:I have a problem with giving Rice millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer (my) money and allowing that.

Is that any different than a private company getting government research grants and posting 30.06? What about a company that gets most of its income from government contracts?

The question is where we should draw the line. On one side, I think definitely a public school or university shouldn't be able to post enforceable 30.06 signs, even for sports, and private residences that home school definitely should have that right, even in their driveway or on their lawn.

"Private" companies under contract with the government often have additional rules to follow regarding workplace safety, audits, discrimination, Insurance and the like ... I think if they get "millions" in Tax dollars, either stop accepting the money, or follow rules the government (we) set, since "we" pay so much to "them"

Two girls I raised were home schooled, yet "we" didn't get "millions" we bought the books ourselves, we paid the utilities ourselves, we bought the computers and programs ourselves, our "free lunch program" was whatever I or their mother paid for at the store out of "our money" and cooked, the "school nurse" was whatever doctor I took them to and paid for with "my money" the "school playground" was the playground equipment I assembled one Christmas eve in the cold rain, the "school swimming pool" wasn't paid for by the government, nor were "swimming lessons", ...so yes, private residences of homeschoolers can do what they want to. (Of course we had 2 or 3 armed people "on campus" 24/7, so if anything, we'd have had a sign like Chappell Hill Bank has)

Ameer wrote:

Teamless wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:. Collage sporting events would be off limits only if a 30.06 sign were posted.

Could a college (assuming a tax payer funded and non-100% private school, post 30.06 signs? Seems to me if they are Public Colleges and Universities, the would not be able to do that...

That's the way the law should be. If Rice wants to post 30.06 they should be able to, but UH should be prohibited from posting 30.06 anywhere, including sports, unless they give up all tax money first.

I have a problem with giving Rice millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer (my) money and allowing that. Whether the money is directly to the school from Government grants (I think it was in excess of 35 million is easily traceable), or via students paying tuition with government grants, (unknown millions) it's still government (my) tax dollars