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philip964 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/inmarsat-interrog ... ector.html

Doppler effect use to determine the plane had taken the Southern route. Thus the announcement today.

The company then compared its theoretical flight path with data received from Boeing 777s it knew had flown the same route, he said, and it matched exactly.

steveincowtown wrote:Sounds like they are now saying it did definitely go down in the southern Indian Ocean.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asi ... ?hpt=hp_t1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went down over the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Monday, citing a new analysis of satellite data by a British satellite company and accident investigators.

Keith B wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

Dragonfighter wrote:

philip964 wrote:I know the families are hoping the people are alive. If we imagine for a second they are alive. Think of the logistics of detaining 250 people for two weeks. No one escapes, uses their cell phone. None of your compatriots tells anyone where they are being kept. Deserted island somewhere? If it was Pakistan, or some place like that they would have been discovered already.

Time will tell.

If you were taken hostage by hijacking and flown somewhere in the back of a plane, could you tell your loved ones where you are? Provided your phone wasn't discovered and taken in the first place I mean.

Yes... Within a few feet anywhere in the world... My phone has GPS

Provided you had cell coverage to call. A GPS does you no good without the capability of making contact. There is not cell coverage in many large areas of the world. Even the US has LOTS of areas that have limited to no cellular service.

Dragonfighter wrote:

philip964 wrote:I know the families are hoping the people are alive. If we imagine for a second they are alive. Think of the logistics of detaining 250 people for two weeks. No one escapes, uses their cell phone. None of your compatriots tells anyone where they are being kept. Deserted island somewhere? If it was Pakistan, or some place like that they would have been discovered already.

Time will tell.

If you were taken hostage by hijacking and flown somewhere in the back of a plane, could you tell your loved ones where you are? Provided your phone wasn't discovered and taken in the first place I mean.

Jaguar wrote:This flight has been gone so long without any evidence of where it is that even if they recover debris the actual resting place on the bottom could be hundreds of miles away with little hope of finding the black boxes.

cdc101 wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

jmra wrote:You're correct. AP had it incorrectly labeled as 119'11" instead of 199'11".

I've been watching the news for too long. Something about 199' 11" stuck in my head.
Watching that stat on the news graphics I keep thinking.... "Sooooo close, you'd think they'd have found a way to add another inch"

Maybe the 200' mark pushes them into a different insurance coverage bracket. ;)

Serious question...does anyone know how they were able to find the Air France plane's black boxes 2 years after that one crashed off the coast of Brazil (I think it was Brazil?)? I keep hearing that the pings only last for 30 days...did they juist get lucky with the Air France plane to find them after so long? I realize they at least had an idea of where to look for those.

Still seems like a needle in a haystack for that too.

jmra wrote:You're correct. AP had it incorrectly labeled as 119'11" instead of 199'11".

jmra wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:Lost shipping container?

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Trying to figure out what part of the plane would still be afloat that would measure 80 feet. According to the experts about the only part of the structure that would float would be a wing. Any part of the cabin area would have sunk by now. The problem with it being a wing is the total wing span (wing tip to wing tip) is only 119 feet. 20 feet of that total is fuselage which means each wing is a max of 50 feet. Of course the only way a wing could be floating is if the engine detached from the wing.

jmra wrote:So much for an emergency causing the change in flight path.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/18 ... ourse-was/
"The Malaysia Airlines flight that vanished nearly two weeks ago was already 12 minutes into its diverted course when the plane's co-pilot calmly told air traffic controllers that things were "all right," former FAA spokesman Scott Brenner said Tuesday on The Kelly File."

jmra wrote:According to Fox News this morning, data received from the plane's systems show that the turn was preprogrammed into the navigation system and was not performed manually. It may have even been programmed into the system while it was still on the ground.
Another link http://news.iafrica.com/worldnews/908028.html

Rather than manually operating the plane's controls, whoever altered Flight 370's path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer situated between the captain and the co-pilot, according to officials.

The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shaw was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.

Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.

For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.

jmra wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:Here's the first "hijacked" theory that has any resonance with me at all.

Facts re: SIA-68 not confirmed.
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Makes a lot of sense.