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by NorthTexas
Wed May 04, 2011 11:59 pm
Forum: Concealed Carry on College Campuses
Topic: Articles about zaffrini cutting off nose to spite face
Replies: 26
Views: 3713

Re: Articles about zaffrini cutting off nose to spite face

srothstein wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:Are there any crime bills that SB 354 could be attached to as an amendment? To me that would highlight the most important aspect of campus carry, namely that it is a personal security, anti-crime measure.
:iagree:

The remaining higher ed bills are either:
A) better acceptance of credits of non-traditional means
B) free rides for vets and families (including reimbursements from soldiers of previous wars)
C) free rides for kids who "qualify"

That's my take after a very quick perusal.

Don't see any way to make CC germane to any of these.

So let's make it germane. We add a section to the bill that gives one credit of PE for anyone who has taken a Texas CHL class and carries on campus. Think what that would do to the opposition. :biggrinjester:
Better yet, have the CHL classes taught on-campus like Texas Tech did fairly recently, but for credit. One credit hour class for Criminal Justice majors, or for ROTC minors, and optional elective for others? Or a continuing education style class at the community college level for nontraditional, non-degree seeking students. :mrgreen:
by NorthTexas
Tue May 03, 2011 10:02 pm
Forum: Concealed Carry on College Campuses
Topic: Articles about zaffrini cutting off nose to spite face
Replies: 26
Views: 3713

Re: Articles about zaffrini cutting off nose to spite face

baldeagle wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:
RPB wrote:Wentworth said he's looking for the next bill to attach it to
The issue is finding a higher ed bill to attach it to whose author won't withdraw it if a campus carry amendment is offered. Looking over the intent and ROB calendars, the only higher ed bill authored by a Republican is by Ogden, so that won't work. There are several authored by Zaffirini, a couple by Van de Putte (the "doctors can't be trusted with guns" senator), and one by West (who is about as likely to allow it as Ellis).
The question isn't will they allow it. The question is, will they withdraw the bill when the amendment passes. Because it's clear that the amendment will pass no matter what bill it's attached to. The sad part is that a minority of the Senate can prevent a bill from being debated on its merits, even if a majority will vote for it.
Hirundo82, do you know what any of those other higher ed bills are about? I haven't looked in to them, but I would think the next best candidate for a campus carry amendment would be whatever bill is most critical or most sought by higher ed after SB 5.

I agree with what I think Baldeagle might be suggesting - if Ogden, Zaffirini, Van de Putte, and West won't allow SB 354 to be debated on its merits, will they actually pull their own higher ed bills after campus carry amendments are attached to them one by one? Would they be willing to have all their higher ed legislation shut down this session because they continue to stand in the way of campus carry? I'd love to see a campus carry amendment attached to each of these other higher ed bills, one by one, until either someone refuses to pull down their own bill with the CC amendment, or someone steps up to be the 21st vote for SB 354.

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