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DO NOT POST DIRECT DPS PHONE NUMBERS!!!

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A laugh and a lesson.

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by Charles L. Cotton » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:38 pm
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One of my flying magazines (AOPA Pilot) has a regular monthly column entitled Never Again. In it are stories of close calls for pilots, most of whom...

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Never Again!?
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Posts in the "Never Again" forum

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by Charles L. Cotton » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:38 pm

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We are getting a large number of posts in the Never Again section that should be posted elsewhere. As noted in the sticky for that section, it is...

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Shooting rifle grenades (HE) from the shoulder with an M1 Garand set for max distance we saw it in a manual and I had a much higher rank officer...

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Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:56 pm
Chicago mass shooting at 4th of July parade

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TX: Uncle taught 9 yo how to rack the slide

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by philip964 » Tue May 03, 2022 3:09 pm

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Then left the gun unattended and 9 yo murdered his 4 yo brother.

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My kids learned how to rack slides and also how to disassemble and reassemble various firearms before they were 9. They also learned the gun safety...

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Mon May 16, 2022 10:24 pm
NM: Hand gun with trigger pulled by Alec Baldwin in rehearsal kills one injures one

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by philip964 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:58 pm
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Unfortunately it wasn’t Alec Baldwin who was killed.

Western movie. Police are investigating.

Violate the rules, people die.

Update

“Actor Alec...

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We clearly need Baldwin control. Guns don’t shoot people. Baldwin does.
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Tue May 03, 2022 7:29 am
3 arrested in road rage shootout on I30 near Rockwall

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by AndyC1911 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:46 pm

More at

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Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:46 pm
Concealed is concealed

Last post by RoyGBiv « Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 am
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by philip964 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:46 pm

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Man raises his hands to cheer at state wrestling tournament and exposes his gun on TV.

Fifth degree felony, not arrested yet.

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Oops...

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Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 am
TX: Grandbury toddler shoots mom and baby sister in car at Walmart

Last post by Paladin « Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:46 pm
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by philip964 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:57 am

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Please people don’t be stupid with your guns around children.

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That is both stupid and illegal

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Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:46 pm
Bad Shoot

Last post by The Annoyed Man « Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:06 am
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by carlson1 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:12 pm

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I am kind of like the commentators where I try not to comment on too many shootings that have police involved because me having background in law...

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I could have sworn that Correia has stated in a number of his videos that he was with Phoenix PD. Maybe I misunderstood him. Regardless, I’ve found...

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Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:06 am
In Memory of Pearl Harbor

Last post by crazy2medic « Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:14 am
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by 03Lightningrocks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 am

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Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:14 am
WY: Not having one in the pipe may have led to this poor man’s death.

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by philip964 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:46 pm

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2 Grizzly bears attacked after being drawn to the sent of a bow killed Elk.

Empty canister of bear spray found near his body. At some point the...

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.357 for pigs. If I was in bear country my preference would be along the lines of what you posted.

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Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:15 am
Lubbock Shooting, Self Defense?

Last post by carlson1 « Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:13 pm
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by Caliber » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:10 pm

I say that's not self defense and the shooter is in trouble. What you say?

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Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:13 pm
I said something stupid

Last post by 03Lightningrocks « Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:56 am
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by olafpfj » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:41 pm
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I have a no soliciting sign on my front door. Despite that, some people still knock and that is what happened this morning. I answered the door to...

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Bawaaahahaha... back when my daughter lived at home, forever ago, the UPS guy new her by her first name. I can relate.
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Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:56 am
TX: Houston mom sends her 11 and 10 year old boys to retrieve something from her car

Last post by philip964 « Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:52 pm

by philip964 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:52 pm

Yeah, they find the gun in the car and the 10 year old is dead.

Don’t do this - please.

I know I’m preaching to the choir.

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Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:52 pm
You aren't doing anything wrong if no one knows what you're doing.

Last post by flechero « Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:14 pm
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by Paladin » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:56 pm

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There is a reason why proper tactical training includes checking your six before you get up from the kneeling position:

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Anyone ID the gun of the white guy? Could we have a glock jamming on camera? :lol:

(there wasn't anything else to add to the near tragedy)

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Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:14 pm
Houston, Texas, Mom Shoots At Aggressive Dog And Misses Horribly

Last post by crazy2medic « Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:26 am
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by oljames3 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:28 am

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Active Self Protection narrated video.

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Unfortunately these dogs are acquired by people that fail to teach the dogs manners or worse, want them to be aggressive! A dog especially a big dog...

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Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:26 am
TX: Waller Co. Fire Marshall kills volunteer fire fighter while showing off his rifle

Last post by ELB « Mon May 31, 2021 3:51 pm
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by philip964 » Fri May 28, 2021 12:04 am

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Removed magazine pointed it and pulled the trigger killing the firefighter.

Charged with manslaughter.

When you break a rule people die. Break...

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Waller County has some kind of voodoo hex on it, I believe.

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Mon May 31, 2021 3:51 pm
Pocket Gun Is Fired - Should Never Happen

Last post by ELB « Wed May 19, 2021 11:26 am
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by carlson1 » Tue May 18, 2021 10:43 pm

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Wed May 19, 2021 11:26 am
The danger of unknown quality surplus ammo

Last post by Paladin « Mon May 03, 2021 2:32 pm
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by Grayling813 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:21 am

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Mon May 03, 2021 2:32 pm
Why Use Eye Protection

Last post by Weldonjr2001 « Sat May 01, 2021 9:54 am
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by carlson1 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:13 am
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I used to be the “one” who hated eye protection. It has been years if not decades that I begin to always wear eye protection of some kind.

I seen...

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Not nearly as extreme as the OP example, but several years back I had an ejected .45 casing fly back, hit me in the right eye, and
knock out my...
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Sat May 01, 2021 9:54 am
TX: Houston 16 yo accidentally killed by friend “playing” with a gun.

Last post by philip964 « Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:25 pm
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by philip964 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:51 pm

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4 friends playing with a gun when it accidentally just fired, by it self, while it pointed itself at the head or heart of one of the young men....

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I am always amazed at how these guns decide to fire just at the point that they have pointed themselves at a head or a heart.

There are so many...

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Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:25 pm
Attempted carjacking?

Last post by PUCKER « Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:43 am
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by jmra » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:59 pm

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We were recently in Little Rock for a family members wedding. We attended the rehearsal dinner and then visited with family.
Heading back to the...

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Agreed. Please do. My cousin is a Lt. Detective with Little Rock PD. Any suspicious contact is worth reporting, the more details (and location) you...

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Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:43 am
TX: 8 month old killed by 3 yo brother in Houston

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Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:11 pm
Georgia teen accidentally shot to death during target practice

Last post by Keith B « Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:00 pm
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by philip964 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:04 am

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Had just picked up her cap and gown for graduation.

Everyone cooperating with police. Not taught gun safety rules.

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Texas law is allowing access to a person YOUNGER than 17. Georgia is below 18. I disagree with these laws in some aspects, because I was shooting and...

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Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:00 pm
TX: Houston man murders his sister while showing her his new gun

Last post by Lynyrd « Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:28 pm
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by philip964 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:56 pm

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Gun was unloaded and the safety was on when it just went off when he pointed it at his sister.

I think we need the death penalty for stupid. Might...

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Even if the gun had been unloaded, and on safe, only an idiot points a gun at anyone they don't intend to shoot. Rule #1: don't point the gun at...

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Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:28 pm
TX: Houston man sets gun on table it then shoots and kills him

Last post by Rafe « Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:48 pm
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by philip964 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:45 am

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Love news writers today Richmond and Westheimer parallel each other, so no idea sort of where this happened.

And then you have the issue of the gun...

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I believe it might be the new Dominion Corp. premium XCast® drop-in trigger systems. I heard there's a recall now because for every round you shoot...

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Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:48 pm
NY Range Safety Officer Killed by Negligent Discharge During USPSA Competition

Last post by oljames3 « Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:30 am
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by AndyC » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:52 am

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Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:30 am
TX: Plano dog shoots owner in thigh

Last post by carlson1 « Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:25 pm
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by philip964 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:15 am

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Gun in waistband, lifting dog.

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Glocks are not for everyone just like 1911’s are not for everyone. I love my 1911’s, but when I found the Shadow Systems and that I could change the...

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Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:25 pm
FL: mistaking an intruder mans kills pregnant wife

Last post by 03Lightningrocks « Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:34 am
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by philip964 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:34 am

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Stupid and so tragic.

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I agree. This looks suspicious. I would bet the local police handling this are thinking the same thing.

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Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:34 am
AL: 15 yo girl really punished for staying out late.

Last post by Russell « Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:11 am
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by philip964 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:15 pm

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If I was biological dad, I would be petitioning for custody. Someone that stupid should not have custody of a child.

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No he didn't. He put his finger on the trigger and pulled it. That's not an accident.

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Last post by Russell
Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:11 am
PA: Teen murdered while watching sunset with girlfriend

Last post by The Annoyed Man « Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:11 pm
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by philip964 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:50 pm

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Watching sunset on lakeshore in State Park with girlfriend. Shot in neck from 550 ft away by man with rifle who left the scene. It is hunting season...

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This almost had to be intentional. Just look at the picture. The shooter was observed by the girlfriend to be standing behind the closed yellow gate...

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Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:11 pm
TX: Houston 3 yo dies at birthday party after shooting himself

Last post by Scott B. « Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:05 am
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by philip964 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:16 pm

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Gun fell out of a coat and he found it supposedly.

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Unfortunately, this will be the example I use in the LTC class I'm teaching today.

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Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:05 am
TX: Firearms instructor shot by student

Last post by parabelum « Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:24 pm
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by philip964 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:23 pm

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Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:24 pm
Cheaper than dirt price gouging

Last post by Mel « Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:04 am
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by Tex1961 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:58 am
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Saw this on another gun forum, so I went to their site. Cheaper than dirt is asking double and triple pricing for common ammo calibers. I get supply...

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I just bought 12 yards of dirt a few days ago and it was anything but cheap .
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:04 am
ND at the gun club today during monthly pistol match

Last post by AndyC « Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:55 am
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by SigM4 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:54 pm
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Wow, talk about a lucky dude. Out at my gun club's monthly pistol match. It's loosely based on USPSA but is more of a means for members to put their...

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Bingo - excellent summary in the last sentence.
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Last post by AndyC
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:55 am
Interview with a gunfighter

Last post by The Annoyed Man « Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:23 pm

by The Annoyed Man » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:23 pm

This has probably been posted at some time or other on this forum, but I just saw it for the first time a few minutes ago. It’s a pretty good 1st...

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Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:23 pm
ND - some blood

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by AndyC » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:51 am
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Some dude on FB, from his own page:

I'd post the FB link itself but it's full of the usual 'experts' talking about Glocks, 1911s, safeties,...

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Yes, I was. The small hospital in Johnson City had trauma treatment capability because the doctor's wife died as the result of a car accident and...
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Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 am
KY: Armed open carry black dressed group has ND wounding 3 members

Last post by philip964 « Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:32 am
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by philip964 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:48 pm

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Louisville protests descend into chaos when armed protester accidentally shoots members of his group, injuring 3

Explore the Fox News apps that...

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Ok it is changed. My apologies. I like KT better.

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Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:32 am
Just got back from AD/ND call

Last post by Excaliber « Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:10 am
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by parabelum » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:37 pm

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So the gentleman was loading his little NAA 22mag and in the process ended up discharging the round into his left hand (went through the crease...

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That is very true, and extra care is required when handling them.

The smaller they are, the more this applies.

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Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:10 am
TX: Fort Bend County deputy killed by friendly fire

Last post by philip964 « Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:39 pm
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by philip964 » Fri May 29, 2020 10:22 am

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RIP

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Fort Bend Deputy charged in death of Deputy Constable.

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Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:39 pm
Don't be this guy.

Last post by LDP « Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 pm
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by philip964 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:54 pm
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Went into a BBQ place without a mask. Kid behind the counter asked about his mask, said he had an exemption. Then showed him his gun.

Restaurant I...

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I have been waiting for one, thank you!
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 pm
CO: Grandfather mistakenly shot and killed by police after he killed intruder

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by philip964 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:08 am

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This is from 2018.

As police arrived they heard gunshots. Enter the home and found a man with a gun the homeowner.

It is very important that after...

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My fear has always been that, in the heat of the moment, the police arrive before I'm prepared for that arrival. Time can standstill in an emergency,...

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Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:07 am
CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

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In what is being described as mad man being killed by police after refusing to put down his gun in Las Vegas, is taking a turn for the worse as it...

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Letter from Erik Scott’s father on the 10th anniversary of his son’s murder.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:59 pm
TX: mass murder in San Antonio 6 dead including 4 children and babies

Last post by ELB « Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:57 pm
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by philip964 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:10 pm

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So so sad. Military family.

It is never as bad as you think. You have friends who love you. Please, please Never do this it is not the way.

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That is just...heart-rending.

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Last post by ELB
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:57 pm
TX: 4 year old shot to death by older sibling

Last post by Deltaboy « Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:33 pm
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by philip964 » Tue May 05, 2020 10:24 pm

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Never again, please.

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Horrible :tiphat:

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Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:33 pm
TX: ND by officer at Alpine High School raises questions about arming teachers

Last post by Deltaboy « Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:07 pm
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by philip964 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:42 am

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Accidental shootings raise questions about arming teachers.

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Agree :tiphat:

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Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:07 pm
Police Officer Mishandles Gun And Shoots Another

Last post by C-dub « Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:44 pm
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by carlson1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:59 am
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:44 pm
Any Data on Accidental Gun Fatalities by Caliber?

Last post by WildBill « Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 am
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by imkopaka » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:35 pm

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I found out this morning there is something wrong with my 22 rifle (crappy little mossberg 702). It isn't cocking correctly and while I was function...

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I think both of your theories are pretty logical, but the original question was about fatalities. Even if you had all of the data available, I don't...

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Last post by WildBill
Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 am
IN: CHL wrestling with 4 year old son ND shoots both in head, son dies

Last post by K.Mooneyham « Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:29 am
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by philip964 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:25 pm
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RIP

Still being investigated.

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I think I understand where you are going with this. Carrying a non-thumb/grip safety striker-fired pistol requires a greater level of training...
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Last post by K.Mooneyham
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:29 am
My Lucky Day

Last post by J.R.@A&M « Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:17 pm

by J.R.@A&M » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:17 pm

So, for the last two weeks I have flown without a firearm because of anticipated rushes to the airports, an unfamiliar airline, and out of state...

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:17 pm
TX: Bellaire High School Shooting was a Never Again

Last post by philip964 « Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:50 pm
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by philip964 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:24 pm

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DA explains why it was manslaughter and not first degree murder.

Just because you think the gun is unloaded....

16 yo arrested and 19 yo ROTC...

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Mental health evaluation for the ND/murderer/crazy student with a gun at school, 16 year old JROTC.

Not cooperating with police. Gun still missing....

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Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:50 pm

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