Another Gun "Spokesman"

[howdy]

Neighbor speaks out: Start at 0:39 sec

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[jayinsat]

The news media always has a way of finding "That Guy" . Doesn't matter what race or creed, he is always the worst representative of a community.

[baldeagle]

What was wrong with what he said?

The wounded robber ran to a nearby home where he collapsed, crying for help in Spanish. That’s where Craig Gaddis found him.

"The owner, thank God for rights, he shot one of ‘em. And that’s as far as the guy got, collapsed on the concrete there," Craig Gaddis said. "You know, amen, we got one of them."

The suspect was taken to Ben Taub Hospital for treatment.

The young man who shot him appeared to be struggling with his emotions. But Gaddis had nothing but praise for him.

"He got what he deserved," Gaddis said. "You want to come over here and rob houses? Those of us who do carry guns in our houses, they are there for one reason—to keep you people out, and I’m so happy that someone got him."

Neighbors on Braeburn Valley Drive say they’re fed up with burglars and thieves. They’re ready to protect themselves and each other.

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

The other two suspects got away in a dark Chevy Tahoe.

Gaddis hopes they got the message and don’t try to come back.

"I say to that guy, ‘Tell your friends what happened to you,’" Gaddis said. "He’s got a wound in his neck that’s gotta hurt—I guess every time he looks left or right. He needs to remember what he did and what the consequences were."

[K.Mooneyham]

What was wrong with what he said?

The wounded robber ran to a nearby home where he collapsed, crying for help in Spanish. That’s where Craig Gaddis found him.

"The owner, thank God for rights, he shot one of ‘em. And that’s as far as the guy got, collapsed on the concrete there," Craig Gaddis said. "You know, amen, we got one of them."

The suspect was taken to Ben Taub Hospital for treatment.

The young man who shot him appeared to be struggling with his emotions. But Gaddis had nothing but praise for him.

"He got what he deserved," Gaddis said. "You want to come over here and rob houses? Those of us who do carry guns in our houses, they are there for one reason—to keep you people out, and I’m so happy that someone got him."

Neighbors on Braeburn Valley Drive say they’re fed up with burglars and thieves. They’re ready to protect themselves and each other.

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

The other two suspects got away in a dark Chevy Tahoe.

Gaddis hopes they got the message and don’t try to come back.

"I say to that guy, ‘Tell your friends what happened to you,’" Gaddis said. "He’s got a wound in his neck that’s gotta hurt—I guess every time he looks left or right. He needs to remember what he did and what the consequences were."

Because we all know that the robber did it only because he was disadvantaged and he just needed a hug and if society hadn't been mean to him, he wouldn't have done it, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah. Funny, though, how I grew up poor as a kid but I never robbed anyone, or even thought about it. And when I say poor, I mean no indoor plumbing for a few years kind of poor...

[suthdj]

the guy was a blow hard but nothing wrong in what he said I would have to agree with him hurray one for the good guy.

[jayinsat]

What's wrong with what he said?

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

This may not end well for you! Running from the scene with stolen goods does not show threat to life. Shooting someone for property is not something I would personally do. That's just my view. To each his own though.

[trentwhite778]

Am I the only one who is completely disturbed that they give out the exact address along with video of the house? Hey guys, you know your burglar friend who just got shot? Here's the address of the guy who shot him, here's what his house looks like, and here's what HE looks like. Have fun!

[The Annoyed Man]

Am I the only one who is completely disturbed that they give out the exact address along with video of the house? Hey guys, you know your burglar friend who just got shot? Here's the address of the guy who shot him, here's what his house looks like, and here's what HE looks like. Have fun!

Yeah, that's 6 kinds of wrong.

[RPBrown]

Am I the only one who is completely disturbed that they give out the exact address along with video of the house? Hey guys, you know your burglar friend who just got shot? Here's the address of the guy who shot him, here's what his house looks like, and here's what HE looks like. Have fun!

Yeah, that's 6 kinds of wrong.

I agree. Just plain wrong.

But the anti's will say" well you have guns and we are gonna show where they are"

[baldeagle]

What's wrong with what he said?

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

This may not end well for you! Running from the scene with stolen goods does not show threat to life. Shooting someone for property is not something I would personally do. That's just my view. To each his own though.

That's not what Texas law says.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

There may be some DAs that would pursue the case, but they should lose.

[jayinsat]

What's wrong with what he said?

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

This may not end well for you! Running from the scene with stolen goods does not show threat to life. Shooting someone for property is not something I would personally do. That's just my view. To each his own though.

That's not what Texas law says.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B)to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

There may be some DAs that would pursue the case, but they should lose.

This burglary happened during the afternoon. If I understand this section of the law right, you would not be covered. IANAL however.

For me, morally, I still would not shoot over property for someone fleeing away from me outside. Again, just my view. To each his own.

[Jaguar]

What's wrong with what he said?

"If my neighbor was getting robbed and they’re coming out of his front door, stuff in their hands, I’ll pull and ask them to ‘Stop, freeze, don’t move,’" Gaddis said. "And if they keep running, I’m gonna shoot ‘em too."

This may not end well for you! Running from the scene with stolen goods does not show threat to life. Shooting someone for property is not something I would personally do. That's just my view. To each his own though.

That's not what Texas law says.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B)to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

There may be some DAs that would pursue the case, but they should lose.

This burglary happened during the afternoon. If I understand this section of the law right, you would not be covered. IANAL however.

For me, morally, I still would not shoot over property for someone fleeing away from me outside. Again, just my view. To each his own.

With the OR in the statutes, it means that any of the listed offenses are applicable. So yes, you can shoot someone who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary. IANAL either.

[seamusTX]

I'm pretty far from the "shoot first and ask questions later" school of thought, but the ongoing failure to understand the difference between robbery, burglary, and theft in the nighttime is troubling.

Robbery and burglary are among the most serious crimes, alongside rape, kidnapping, and arson, only slightly less serious than murder.

Running one's mouth, while not generally a good idea, is not a crime. If it were, most radio and TV would be out of business.



- Jim

[rp_photo]

With the OR in the statutes, it means that any of the listed offenses are applicable. So yes, you can shoot someone who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary. IANAL either.

Perhaps it would be a good thing to remove all references to "nighttime" and have consistent laws 24/7.

[RoyGBiv]

With the OR in the statutes, it means that any of the listed offenses are applicable. So yes, you can shoot someone who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary. IANAL either.

Perhaps it would be a good thing to remove all references to "nighttime" and have consistent laws 24/7.

I assume that "theft during the nighttime" is specifically called out because when somebody is stealing your lawnmower at 2:AM it adds an unreasonable and dangerous burden on the victim to discern, in the dark, whether the act is simply theft or the thief is actually intending burglary.

Sec. 31.03. THEFT. (a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.

Sec. 30.02. BURGLARY. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner, the person:
(1) enters a habitation, or a building (or any portion of a building) not then open to the public, with intent to commit a felony, theft, or an assault; or
(2) remains concealed, with intent to commit a felony, theft, or an assault, in a building or habitation; or
(3) enters a building or habitation and commits or attempts to commit a felony, theft, or an assault.

IANAL.