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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby Redneck_Buddha » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:58 pm

C-dub wrote:
Redneck_Buddha wrote:
jmra wrote:
jmra wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Muslims Shout “Praise Allah!” Surround OK Police Following Press Conference on Beheading


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/

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Saw this yesterday on a satire site. Gave me pause about its authenticity.

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/beheaded.asp
According to the Moore PD public affairs officer this didn't happen. (Bottom of page)


For what it's worth, the couple that makes up the Snopes team (the Mikkelsons) are hard-core lefty Dems and some of what they have claimed to debunk is actually true, and some of what they claim to be true is actually bunk.

Their shenanigans is easily findable on the Internet.

I've heard this for a few years now. I wonder if there's a site fact checking snopes.


C-Dub, here is a counter point to their site although I'm not certain of the provenance of the people who run this site, either.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/ ... Ch18eekaqw
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmra » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:00 pm

Redneck_Buddha wrote:
jmra wrote:
jmra wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Muslims Shout “Praise Allah!” Surround OK Police Following Press Conference on Beheading


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/

Anygunanywhere

Saw this yesterday on a satire site. Gave me pause about its authenticity.

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/beheaded.asp
According to the Moore PD public affairs officer this didn't happen. (Bottom of page)


For what it's worth, the couple that makes up the Snopes team (the Mikkelsons) are hard-core lefty Dems and some of what they have claimed to debunk is actually true, and some of what they claim to be true is actually bunk.

Their shenanigans is easily findable on the Internet.

:iagree: But I couldn't find a single news site that ran this story and I haven't seen snopes lie regarding a direct quote from a PD public affairs officer. This one just didn't smell right from the very beginning.

Of course the stuff about snopes could also be fabricated
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
“You’d be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people,” David Mikkelson said. We checked online to see if he had given money to any federal candidates, and nothing turned up. Mikkelson even faxed us a copy of his voter registration form. He asked us not to post an image of it here, but we can confirm that it shows he declined to state a party affiliation when he registered last year, and also that when he registered in 2000 he did so as a Republican.
Do the Snopes.com articles reveal a political bias? We reviewed a sampling of their political offerings, including some on rumors about George W. Bush, Sarah Palin and Barack Obama, and we found them to be utterly poker-faced. David does say that the site receives more complaints that it is too liberal than that it is too conservative. Nevertheless, he says, “We apply the same debunking standards to both sides.”

Might want to look at this site also
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/intern ... xposed.htm
And this one
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/ ... Ch67n48KrU
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby LDB415 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:24 pm

What does Snopes say about the legitimacy of Snopes? :roll: :confused5
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmra » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:33 pm

LDB415 wrote:What does Snopes say about the legitimacy of Snopes? :roll: :confused5

Funny. But I've gone through 5 pages of Google and can't find a single legit website that says snopes has been inaccurate. I have found a number of very questionable websites (all of whom also ran the Muslim story yesterday referenced earlier) that claim snopes lies and are liberal Dems but fail to produce any evidence whatsoever to back their claim.

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmra » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:38 pm

Redneck_Buddha wrote:
C-dub wrote:
Redneck_Buddha wrote:
jmra wrote:
jmra wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Muslims Shout “Praise Allah!” Surround OK Police Following Press Conference on Beheading


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/

Anygunanywhere

Saw this yesterday on a satire site. Gave me pause about its authenticity.

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/beheaded.asp
According to the Moore PD public affairs officer this didn't happen. (Bottom of page)


For what it's worth, the couple that makes up the Snopes team (the Mikkelsons) are hard-core lefty Dems and some of what they have claimed to debunk is actually true, and some of what they claim to be true is actually bunk.

Their shenanigans is easily findable on the Internet.

I've heard this for a few years now. I wonder if there's a site fact checking snopes.


C-Dub, here is a counter point to their site although I'm not certain of the provenance of the people who run this site, either.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/ ... Ch18eekaqw

What truthorfiction.com has to say about snopes.com
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/ ... Ch_kH48KrU
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby LDB415 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:41 pm

jmra wrote:
LDB415 wrote:What does Snopes say about the legitimacy of Snopes? :roll: :confused5

Funny. But I've gone through 5 pages of Google and can't find a single legit website that says snopes has been inaccurate. I have found a number of very questionable websites (all of whom also ran the Muslim story yesterday referenced earlier) that claim snopes lies and are liberal Dems but fail to produce any evidence whatsoever to back their claim.

Let's be better than those we detest. Let's not spread rumors about people without doing our research and verifying the facts.


I don't believe I spread any rumors. I just made a joke about the fox watching the hen house.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmra » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:46 pm

LDB415 wrote:
jmra wrote:
LDB415 wrote:What does Snopes say about the legitimacy of Snopes? :roll: :confused5

Funny. But I've gone through 5 pages of Google and can't find a single legit website that says snopes has been inaccurate. I have found a number of very questionable websites (all of whom also ran the Muslim story yesterday referenced earlier) that claim snopes lies and are liberal Dems but fail to produce any evidence whatsoever to back their claim.

Let's be better than those we detest. Let's not spread rumors about people without doing our research and verifying the facts.


I don't believe I spread any rumors. I just made a joke about the fox watching the hen house.

Sorry - that wasn't aimed at you. It was a general plea to those who had posted prior to you about the same subject matter.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby Redneck_Buddha » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:40 pm

Alrighty then.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmra » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:57 pm

Redneck_Buddha wrote:Alrighty then.

No links to those easily findable facts? :mrgreen: seriously, I seek only truth.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby rbwhatever1 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:11 pm

Interesting article.

It has been over 48 hours since Jah’Keem Yisrael, also known as Alton Nolen, beheaded an American woman in her own workplace by repeatedly stabbing her and then severing her head with a knife. However, America has yet to hear ONE WORD OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT from President Obama.

http://www.examiner.com/article/barack- ... ord-murder
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby jmorris » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:34 am

K.Mooneyham wrote:
rotor wrote:The issue of real importance is that man with a gun stops bad man with a knife.


Motivations aside, that is indeed the true lesson to be learned, or passed on to others. Yes, the individual who fired the shot(s) was an off-duty LEO, but it could as easily have been a private citizen who happened to be in the right place at the right time. I certainly hope that a bill reducing the number of off-limits areas gets through our legislature next year. This incident provides another great example of why it should.


Not active LEO.

"Mark Vaughan, the company CEO and a reserve deputy with the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office, confronted and twice shot Nolen, authorities said."

So at the moment of the incident he was a private citizen.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby Keith B » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:48 am

jmorris wrote:
Not active LEO.

"Mark Vaughan, the company CEO and a reserve deputy with the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office, confronted and twice shot Nolen, authorities said."

So at the moment of the incident he was a private citizen.


Reserve Deputies and other law enforcement in Oklahoma must be Oklahoma C.L.E.E.T. certified. This means he may have been off-duty, but was still a active LEO.

None the less, this could have just as easily been a CHL holder who was allowed to carry on the job. Armed and prepared is armed and prepared.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby Beiruty » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:05 pm

On the weekend, couple of my friends came down from Oklahoma city for a visit. They were disgusted and out of words to describe their sadness and fear of the backlash for their tiny minority up there. One of them, said he would like to move out of the country if things get worse. :grumble :grumble
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby rbwhatever1 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:04 am

Jah'Keem Yisrael, aka Alton Nolen is an evil creature that needs to be exterminated like a cockroach. I would rather live with Cockroaches than coexist with evil creatures like this. Cockroaches are more evolved. His families attitude is very telling of exactly what type of creatures walk among us and their possible propensity towards abhorring acts against fellow Humans.

I agree with this State Trooper. A sadly missed opportunity to exterminate an Evil Creature...

"An Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper said that "I wish I'd killed" Alton Nolen after he hit her and fled when she tried to arrest him during a 2010 traffic stop that left her with an injured hand. "I was never afraid of him or I would have," Lt. Betsy Randolph told KOCO-TV in Oklahoma City."

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