Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby victory » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:45 pm

philip964 wrote:http://www.news9.com/story/26678215/police-investigate-report-of-unauthorized-arabic-man-at-moore-hs

Is that the right link? The story doesn't say anything about him cutting off any heads at the school.

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby C-dub » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:19 pm

Dave2 wrote:
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CHLLady wrote:Do you think he could have been after a way to cash in by claiming racism by suing the school if he was arrested and turns out he was a parent of a student at the school? But plans fell through since the lame school didn't react as he hoped? -- my kids schools have signs posted that all visitors MUST check in at the office. You have to have your id scanned and you are issued a id sticker pass.

My first thought wasn't that he was looking for a payday on a racism charge. He could be anyone from a full blown idiot radical terrorist stupid enough to ask questions that raised peoples alert level to a concerned parent with a child in the school that wanted to know if they knew the answers to his questions. There have been a couple of parents/dads that have done something dumb like this to bring attention to this type of thing before. IIRC, both of those were arrested and at least one did jail time.

They went to jail for asking questions about the security where their kids went to school?!? Surely there's more to the story...

The only one I can find at the moment is this one. He did more than ask questions.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/co ... /14044604/

He was found Not Guilty. I think he was lucky, but they probably came to this verdict because he had no real intent of causing harm and did not have a weapon on him. BTW, I had not looked up the outcome of this before this time. I though for sure he was going to jail.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby KD5NRH » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:25 pm

CHLLady wrote:They should have a procedure in place. Most exits are locked in a way that you can leave, just can't enter again once the door latches. That's how it is at my kids' school.


Still, what good is locking the door once the intruder is inside?

Think about it in terms of your home; if you know there's an intruder, are you going to go secure the perimeter to make sure you don't get any more, or are you going to implement either a fight or flight plan for all household members immediately?

Either bring to bear whatever resources you have to expel or neutralize the intruder, or evacuate by whatever means necessary.

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby ELB » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:27 pm

The subject of the OP, Alton Nolen, is on trial now:

'He wouldn't stop,' survivor of beheading attempt tells jury

The reporter put in this awkward sentence:
She was saved when the company's then-chief operating officer, Mark Vaughan, interrupted the attack, according to testimony Monday.

If you didn't already know the story, you wouldn't find out for several more paragraphs that Vaughan shot Nolen with a rifle three times. Vaughan is a reserve deputy. Also, once you read the story, you find the attack on the second woman, whom Nolen tried to behead, was actually interrupted by her supervisor throwing things at Nolen, who then charged the supervisor. That was when Vaughan arrived and shot Nolen. Not taking a thing away from Vaughan, he made the final stop, but that sentence I quoted seems very stilted when you put together the rest of the story.
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby ELB » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:45 pm

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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby crazy2medic » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:16 pm

C-dub wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
C-dub wrote:
CHLLady wrote:Do you think he could have been after a way to cash in by claiming racism by suing the school if he was arrested and turns out he was a parent of a student at the school? But plans fell through since the lame school didn't react as he hoped? -- my kids schools have signs posted that all visitors MUST check in at the office. You have to have your id scanned and you are issued a id sticker pass.

My first thought wasn't that he was looking for a payday on a racism charge. He could be anyone from a full blown idiot radical terrorist stupid enough to ask questions that raised peoples alert level to a concerned parent with a child in the school that wanted to know if they knew the answers to his questions. There have been a couple of parents/dads that have done something dumb like this to bring attention to this type of thing before. IIRC, both of those were arrested and at least one did jail time.

They went to jail for asking questions about the security where their kids went to school?!? Surely there's more to the story...

The only one I can find at the moment is this one. He did more than ask questions.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/co ... /14044604/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He was found Not Guilty. I think he was lucky, but they probably came to this verdict because he had no real intent of causing harm and did not have a weapon on him. BTW, I had not looked up the outcome of this before this time. I though for sure he was going to jail.
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/04 ... tary.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting thing is I work with this guy, he didn't mean it as a threat but he can be very overbearing!
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Re: Woman Beheaded in Oklahoma

Postby anygunanywhere » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:17 pm



Well, he can then meet the 72 Virginians.
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