Antioch Church mass shooting today stopped by Licensee
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Masked shooter shot 7 others, was confronted by licensee with gun, shot himself, same as at Lubys/Virginia Tech & numerous other instances #ArmedCitizen
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Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
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Re: Antioch Church mass shooting today stopped by Licensee
True, Tenn, like Texas allows church carry (unless church itself prohibits)Keith B wrote:Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
Probably would have been fewer casualties if he had it on body instead of in car
(also sorry for my accidental duplicate posts, I'm in Firefox and Opera and Chrome simultaneously and I confuse easily at my age)
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Carry when/wherever legal unless you can always guess right.
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He still kept others from being shot! I'm just amazed that 1. he wasn't shot when he confronted the shooter and 2. that he didn't shoot him upon returning w/ his gun.Keith B wrote:Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
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It was reported the gunman had already shot himself when the guy returned with the gun. Will guess the gunman may have been no longer a threat and was held until police arrived by the armed individual.flechero wrote:He still kept others from being shot! I'm just amazed that 1. he wasn't shot when he confronted the shooter and 2. that he didn't shoot him upon returning w/ his gun.Keith B wrote:Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
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My thought would be that since he has already proven he will shoot innocent people, the instant I got him in my sights I would have shot him him down!
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And if the guy was already down and no longer a threat, then shooting him would probably be considered murder. It happened to a pharmacist in Oklahoma who 'finished off' a perp. He was sentenced to life in prison http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43710936/ns/u ... cgWE8iGO00crazy2medic wrote:My thought would be that since he has already proven he will shoot innocent people, the instant I got him in my sights I would have shot him him down!
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Ahh... the report I read said gunman shot himself when confronted by the armed citizen.Keith B wrote:It was reported the gunman had already shot himself when the guy returned with the gun. Will guess the gunman may have been no longer a threat and was held until police arrived by the armed individual.flechero wrote:He still kept others from being shot! I'm just amazed that 1. he wasn't shot when he confronted the shooter and 2. that he didn't shoot him upon returning w/ his gun.Keith B wrote:Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
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Video below: Police said gunman was shot when armed guy returned, confronted him physically & "during that confrontation" In another place I heard while struggling with armed citizen, unknown if accidental or on purposeflechero wrote:Ahh... the report I read said gunman shot himself when confronted by the armed citizen.Keith B wrote:It was reported the gunman had already shot himself when the guy returned with the gun. Will guess the gunman may have been no longer a threat and was held until police arrived by the armed individual.flechero wrote:He still kept others from being shot! I'm just amazed that 1. he wasn't shot when he confronted the shooter and 2. that he didn't shoot him upon returning w/ his gun.Keith B wrote:Tennessee allows carry in church. Had the man been armed, and not had it in his car, it would probably have saved others from being shot.
42 people attended church there today
gunman had 2 guns
unknown if both guns used reloaded etc yet
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Kinda hard to shoot somebody down that's already down, that would be a coup de grace, never said that!Keith B wrote:And if the guy was already down and no longer a threat, then shooting him would probably be considered murder. It happened to a pharmacist in Oklahoma who 'finished off' a perp. He was sentenced to life in prison http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43710936/ns/u ... cgWE8iGO00crazy2medic wrote:My thought would be that since he has already proven he will shoot innocent people, the instant I got him in my sights I would have shot him him down!
Active shooter gets no chance to shoot anybody else the least of all me!
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Middle Age Russ wrote:Carry when/wherever legal unless you can always guess right.
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Radio news report mentioned a lot about the crime, but missed that the Hero was armed.
Also failed to mention the BG was an immigrant from a predominately Non Christian country.
Also failed to mention the BG was an immigrant from a predominately Non Christian country.
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