Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

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Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby Vol Texan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:13 pm

My wife and I were there four hours earlier. I figured the invalid 3006 signs on the front door would have kept everyone safe - even in the parking lot!?!

https://www.google.com/amp/abc13.com/amp/mother-of-3-robbed-pistol-whipped-in-ikea-parking-lot/2512979/

Stephanie Anguiano said she was attacked around 6 p.m. Sunday when the sun was still out and the parking lot was packed.

She had her cell phone in her hand and was wearing a purse around her shoulder.

"When I was getting in the car, I took it off and that's when he came behind and grabbed the purse," she explained. "He grabbed the strap, and that's when the strap let go."

Anguiano's purse strap snapped in two, and that's when she says her attacker's face changed.

"I just remember his face angry that I was fighting back and that's when he raised his arm and started swinging with the gun," she said. "The whole side of the gun just kept hitting me and hitting me and I didn't let go."

She handed over her cell phone but never gave up her purse
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Postby CZp10 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:31 pm

This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.

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Postby John Galt » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:34 pm

CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


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Postby Salty1 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:35 pm

CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?

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Postby Lynyrd » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:38 pm

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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby John Galt » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:51 pm

Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?



Probably not, but it would at least it would draw attention that the business is putting their customers in harm's way.
I can understand a business putting up a 3007 sign, but a 3006 is a sore spot with me. I can look for another place to spend my money.
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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby philip964 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:52 pm

Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?


I might be on the jury.


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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby TreyHouston » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:04 pm

philip964 wrote:
Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?


I might be on the jury.


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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby dlh » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:50 am

Hopefully the store maintained video that panned out into the parking lot and revealed the license plate number on the perp. car. Lots of cars are stolen by thugs who then abandon them after their felonious activities. Story mentioned the felon jumped into a car with other occupants---sounds like a thug gang looking for opportunities in and around parking lots. We can hope the police catch these bad guys sooner rather than later---otherwise I predict they will strike again.


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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby Abraham » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:15 am

Don't shop at 30.06 posted businesses.


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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby GreenMan0352 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:21 am

John Galt wrote:
Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?



Probably not, but it would at least it would draw attention that the business is putting their customers in harm's way.
I can understand a business putting up a 3007 sign, but a 3006 is a sore spot with me. I can look for another place to spend my money.


Same here. Some people are uncomfortable with firearms so I can understand a business putting up a 30.07 bulletin but 30.06 really? How can they get offended if they don't know?


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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby TreyHouston » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 am

GreenMan0352 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?



Probably not, but it would at least it would draw attention that the business is putting their customers in harm's way.
I can understand a business putting up a 3007 sign, but a 3006 is a sore spot with me. I can look for another place to spend my money.


Same here. Some people are uncomfortable with firearms so I can understand a business putting up a 30.07 bulletin but 30.06 really? How can they get offended if they don't know?


Buisness owners who make this decision offend me, can I ban THEM if I want to shop there?
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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:01 pm

GreenMan0352 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?



Probably not, but it would at least it would draw attention that the business is putting their customers in harm's way.
I can understand a business putting up a 3007 sign, but a 3006 is a sore spot with me. I can look for another place to spend my money.


Same here. Some people are uncomfortable with firearms so I can understand a business putting up a 30.07 bulletin but 30.06 really? How can they get offended if they don't know?


IANAL, but I think the argument would be that by requiring customers to disarm, the store took away the means for the customer to prevent or minimize injury from a foreseeable risk. It would be a better case if the victim actually had an LTC, had left their gun in the car before being assaulted in the store / parking lot, and the store had a documented history of these types of crimes but did not hire sufficient security.

Basically, the store owners should be liable if they choose to do something that increases the likelihood of injury / death from a forseeable risk and then do nothing to mitigate that risk. Kind of like if I invite you into my home, and require you to remove your shoes if you want to stay, then have you follow me across the newly waxed kitchen floor. By taking away your shoes (with traction), I have increased the likelihood of you falling on my newly waxed floor (forseeable risk). Or if I tell your kid that he can't wear his protective helmet before getting on the trampoline in my back yard, and he proceeds to crack open his skull.

The key would be getting a jury to see that banning guns increases the customer's risk. A tall order, especially in a city like Houston where we have a lot of people believing that the presence of any guns always increases risk.
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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:02 pm

TreyHouston wrote:
GreenMan0352 wrote:
John Galt wrote:
Salty1 wrote:
CZp10 wrote:This is why everyone should sue any business with a 30.06 sign. They are intentionally drawing crime to their businesses, and they choose to provide no security even though they have stopped you from defending yourself. Enough law suits will change that.


What makes you think one would be sucessful with such a suit?



Probably not, but it would at least it would draw attention that the business is putting their customers in harm's way.
I can understand a business putting up a 3007 sign, but a 3006 is a sore spot with me. I can look for another place to spend my money.


Same here. Some people are uncomfortable with firearms so I can understand a business putting up a 30.07 bulletin but 30.06 really? How can they get offended if they don't know?


Buisness owners who make this decision offend me, can I ban THEM if I want to shop there?


:iagree: It's a good thing that 30.06 signs don't apply to VESP's.
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Re: Houston: Mother Pistol-whipped and Robbed in IKEA Parking Lit

Postby rotor » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:09 pm

VESP's. What's that? Someone forced this woman to shop at IKEA? Abraham is right.


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