NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Reports of actual crimes and investigations, not hypothetical situations.

Moderators: Keith B, carlson1


rotor
Senior Member
Posts: 2323
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:26 pm

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby rotor » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:38 pm

philip964 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:At lunch just now I heard the mayor of New York criticizing our President for "politicizing" the attack by mentioning the need for tougher immigration requirements. Funny how I didn't hear him criticize Hillary when she called for continuing the ban on silencers right after the Vegas massacre.


There was a Hillary Tweet running around the internet yesterday That essentially said "look at how many more would have been killed if the truck was equipped with a silencer".

It was one of those did she really say it or was it fake?

Trump proposes enemy combatant status for the Alien Terrorist Truck Driver. Suggests sending him to Guantanamo. :woohoo :

Just like we don't want the 2A infringed on this would be unconstitutional also.

User avatar

jmorris
Senior Member
Posts: 1084
Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:41 pm
Location: Cibolo
Contact:

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby jmorris » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:39 pm

oohrah wrote:I don't see how having a gun in situations like can prevent the carnage, or even stop a truck. I think your best defense is situational awareness, thinking about possibilities when you find your self in a crowd.


I would have to think that 4 or 5 rounds, center of mass on the grill, would have to enough effect to at least seriously slow the vehicle. Anybody got an old beater they want to donate as a test subject?
Jay E Morris
Guardian Firearm Training, NRA Pistol, LTC
NRA Lifetime/Recuiter
Cibolo, TX

User avatar

Bitter Clinger
Senior Member
Posts: 1651
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:16 pm
Location: North Dallas

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby Bitter Clinger » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:49 pm

jmorris wrote:
oohrah wrote:I don't see how having a gun in situations like can prevent the carnage, or even stop a truck. I think your best defense is situational awareness, thinking about possibilities when you find your self in a crowd.


I would have to think that 4 or 5 rounds, center of mass on the grill, would have to enough effect to at least seriously slow the vehicle. Anybody got an old beater they want to donate as a test subject?


Those same 4 or 5 rounds though the windshield into the driver would be more effective IMHO.
"You may all go to Chicago, and I will go to Texas." - Davy Crockett
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." - Wyatt Earp
NRA Life Member
לעולם לא תשכח


Topic author
philip964
Senior Member
Posts: 5519
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby philip964 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:57 pm

I'm seeing 5 of the deaths were tourists from like Rio or something all friends, maybe riding together.

Some kind of high school reunion.

RIP


Greybeard
Senior Member
Posts: 2274
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:57 pm
Location: Denton County
Contact:

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby Greybeard » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:11 pm

Quote: "I would have to think that 4 or 5 rounds, center of mass on the grill, would have to enough effect to at least seriously slow the vehicle."

Maybe many miles or many minutes later. Engines can go a long way with low or no fluids. Shots on driver would have a much better chance of quicker stop.
CHL Instructor since 1995
http://www.dentoncountysports.com "A Private Palace for Pistol Proficiency"
24/7 Independent Practice Plans for local LEOs and Texas CHL holders

User avatar

jmorris
Senior Member
Posts: 1084
Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:41 pm
Location: Cibolo
Contact:

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby jmorris » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:15 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote:
jmorris wrote:
oohrah wrote:I don't see how having a gun in situations like can prevent the carnage, or even stop a truck. I think your best defense is situational awareness, thinking about possibilities when you find your self in a crowd.


I would have to think that 4 or 5 rounds, center of mass on the grill, would have to enough effect to at least seriously slow the vehicle. Anybody got an old beater they want to donate as a test subject?


Those same 4 or 5 rounds though the windshield into the driver would be more effective IMHO.


Possibly, but with your average person* I think they'd have a better chance killing the speeding truck than the driver.

*We here are, of course, all above average.
Jay E Morris
Guardian Firearm Training, NRA Pistol, LTC
NRA Lifetime/Recuiter
Cibolo, TX

User avatar

Bitter Clinger
Senior Member
Posts: 1651
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:16 pm
Location: North Dallas

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby Bitter Clinger » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:34 pm

Greybeard wrote:Quote: "I would have to think that 4 or 5 rounds, center of mass on the grill, would have to enough effect to at least seriously slow the vehicle."

Maybe many miles or many minutes later. Engines can go a long way with low or no fluids. Shots on driver would have a much better chance of quicker stop.


Maybe all the concealed carriers in NYC carry Desert Eagle .50's :biggrinjester:
"You may all go to Chicago, and I will go to Texas." - Davy Crockett
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." - Wyatt Earp
NRA Life Member
לעולם לא תשכח

User avatar

Lynyrd
Senior Member
Posts: 953
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:20 am
Location: East Texas

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby Lynyrd » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:58 pm

CNN’s finest, Jake Tapper defends “allahu akbar’ as ‘beautiful.’ :mad5 :banghead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvlHiG-tsw&feature=youtu.be
Do what you say you're gonna do.


Topic author
philip964
Senior Member
Posts: 5519
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Re: NYC: Driver of truck mows down pedestrians - 8 - dead

Postby philip964 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:33 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-did.html

Mosque-goer who knew terrorist totally gets why he did it.


Return to “The Crime Blotter”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests