TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

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jb2012 wrote:Maybe it's just me, but are our representatives aware of the "black market"? It seems like they all either forget or omit the fact that everything the government has regulated, or deemed illegal, is very easily accessible through the black market. Do they think that "Billy Criminal" is going to conduct a background check when he sells a stolen gun to "Johnnie Criminal" if they enacted universal background checks?
I would suggest that the politicians don't care what Billy &Johnnie do. Criminals are little or no threat to them. What they want is to make sure that anyone who is able to think for themselves is disarmed. The lack of reporting in this case and many others where, like Ft
Hood, the problem was known well in advance, clearly says that the goal is not public protection but public control.
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I think Trump handled this decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pRHUIevy0
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Flightmare wrote:I think Trump handled this decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pRHUIevy0
Great answer in my opinion. Liberals cringe at the truth.
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We need extreme vetting for rental trucks to cut down on the rash of mass truckings...
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ScottDLS wrote:We need extreme vetting for rental trucks to cut down on the rash of mass truckings...
We need extreme vetting of liberals.
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Democrats fillibustered legislation that would have forced USAF to report shooter to FBI:

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/cruz- ... paign=COTR
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“I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used,” Winslow said.

And this is Trump's nominee? GRRRRRRRRR!
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Greybeard wrote:“I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used,” Winslow said.

And this is Trump's nominee? GRRRRRRRRR!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11 ... apons.html
I'll be surprised if the nomination isn't withdrawn.
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Greybeard wrote:“I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used,” Winslow said.

And this is Trump's nominee? GRRRRRRRRR!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11 ... apons.html
I guess that he wasn't selected based on his position on the second amendment...
President Trump’s nominee to lead the military health system... Dean Winslow, a professor at Stanford University...
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Greybeard wrote:“I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used,” Winslow said.

And this is Trump's nominee? GRRRRRRRRR!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11 ... apons.html
Former AF Col. who clearly is part of the problem with the military and the government.
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Bitter Clinger wrote:Democrats fillibustered legislation that would have forced USAF to report shooter to FBI:

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/cruz- ... paign=COTR
This truth needs to be repeated and reported every hour of every day until the Democrats quit pushing for more control and less freedom.
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Oh, boy. Turns out criminal history reporting in the military is virtually non-existent. A quote from the article below:
    • "Failure to report the outcome of criminal cases was 79 percent in the Army and 50 percent in the Air Force, the report said. In the Navy, it was 94 percent."
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
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Ruark wrote:Oh, boy. Turns out criminal history reporting in the military is virtually non-existent. A quote from the article below:
    • "Failure to report the outcome of criminal cases was 79 percent in the Army and 50 percent in the Air Force, the report said. In the Navy, it was 94 percent."
This is from:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
Some states are even worse.

See my previous post: viewtopic.php?f=108&t=90606&p=1174877#p1174877
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Looks like we knew good and well in 2015 that there was a problem:
https://media.defense.gov/2015/Feb/12/2 ... 15-081.pdf

Finding A and finding B. I can't copy/paste them as this document is secured (according to Acrobat)
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I’ll just leave this here for your reading pleasure.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232543
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