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MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:24 pm
by philip964
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-n ... -into-home

Man was defending his home against an armed intruder, a stranger to him, who was trying to break in. He ended up being shot in the hip by the man. He called 911.

The former marine was charged with assault with attempt to murder for firing his gun at the man in his yard who had attempted to break his front door down and who shot him in the hip.

The stranger was charged with illegally concealed carrying a weapon.

Could be more to the story, but that's what it basically says.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:49 pm
by WildBill
philip964 wrote:http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/marine-1-of-3-arrested-after-exchanging-gunfire-with-man-trying-to-barge-into-home

Man was defending his home against an armed intruder, a stranger to him, who was trying to break in. He ended up being shot in the hip by the man. He called 911.

The former marine was charged with assault with attempt to murder for firing his gun at the man in his yard who had attempted to break his front door down and who shot him in the hip.

The stranger was charged with illegally concealed carrying a weapon.

Could be more to the story, but that's what it basically says.


Westland police say that a fight over a mutual female friend inside the home led to the shooting.
Joey is now charged with several felonies, including assault with intent to murder.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:54 pm
by Keith B
Also charged was 24-year-old Kori Willhite of Garden City for disguising her identification to a police officer and possession of improper prescription drugs.

Sounds like all of them need a time-out

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:28 pm
by philip964
I suspect he told the police officer he drew and fired first after the attacker retreated to the front yard.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:44 am
by oohrah
Another report I saw on a different forum said the guy was "fleeing" when he was shot. If true, the shooter did not have justification.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:20 pm
by K.Mooneyham
Obviously there is more to the back story on this. However, I find it highly delightful that it's okay for someone shoot up someone's home, and they are immune from anything bad happening to them as long as they run away after doing it. Again, the law seems to be on the side of the person who initiated the crime(s).

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:35 pm
by superstar
oohrah wrote:Another report I saw on a different forum said the guy was "fleeing" when he was shot. If true, the shooter did not have justification.


If Michigan's law is the same as Texas' law, the person that got shot in his own house can use lethal force against an intruder as long as he believed his life or others were in danger and to stop a felony crime while in progress or to stop the person from fleeing the crime.

If the invader appears to run away but his body is turned towards you shooting while "running away" is he fleeing? or looking for cover?

We can all just speculate, best to wait for all the facts surface.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:23 pm
by mojo84
Who's home?

"I don't know (who he is); my son doesn't know him; the owner of the home doesn't know him," says Steve.


"My son was where he was supposed to be - inside his home with his legally owned firearm," Steve Nelson says.


"He opened up the door because he was standing here in the yard," Steve says. "(Joey) told him to get off his property and at that time (Wilson) produced a gun and started shooting at my son."

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:34 pm
by bigtek
superstar wrote:If Michigan's law is the same as Texas' law, the person that got shot in his own house can use lethal force against an intruder as long as he believed his life or others were in danger and to stop a felony crime while in progress or to stop the person from fleeing the crime.

I don't know Michigan law but Texas law doesn't have a blanket justification for shooting a fleeing felon these days.

There are too many unanswered questions for me to have an opinion on this particular shooting, except to suspect the police and DA know more about it than the MSM.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:45 pm
by mojo84
Not sure how trustworthy this site is. It makes the story more interesting.

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/dru ... -gun-case/

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:51 pm
by K.Mooneyham
So, here is my next question: the man who initiated the crime, and reportedly fired first, who is he related to?

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:07 pm
by SewTexas
K.Mooneyham wrote:So, here is my next question: the man who initiated the crime, and reportedly fired first, who is he related to?


the way I read it, the one who started it all is the boyfriend of a friend. It reads like he arrived later, as she was "leaving the party".

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:01 pm
by WildBill
The "story" makes me wonder if the guy was actually trying to break into the house or maybe
was he [loudly] banging on the door.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:42 pm
by philip964
WildBill wrote:The "story" makes me wonder if the guy was actually trying to break into the house or maybe
was he [loudly] banging on the door.


I thought there was something in the news story about the door frame being cracked broken or spli by the man trying to gain entry.

Re: MI:Former Marine charged with assault with attempt to murder after defending his family

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:02 pm
by stroo
None of this makes sense. Having said that 35 years ago when I was in law school I clerked for a local firm part time for a year. We had a case of excessive force by one of the local PDs. While our client may have deserved some rough treatment, (he talked back, to put it mildly, to the arresting officers and jail officers), he really was beat up in the jail. It wasn't racial, our client was white, and I believe we eventually got a settlement.

One of the things I learned though was that some of the officers in the Detroit suburbs were real nasty and not necessarily real competent. The officers described here kind of remind of some of those officers.