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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby hirundo82 » Sun May 22, 2011 7:16 pm

OK, so the version of SB905 from the second committee meeting (at least I think it is from the second meeting) is up, and it includes legislators and statewide elected officials like in the engrossed Senate version. I guess the legislators really want their special treatment.

SB905 has also been recommended for the Local and Uncontested Calendar. Am I correct in my recollection that that precludes attempts to amend the bill on the House floor?
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Jasonw560 » Sun May 22, 2011 7:29 pm

So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby hirundo82 » Sun May 22, 2011 7:51 pm

Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?

I'm not sure it would be considered germane, judging from what Charles was saying in the SB1581 thread.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Paragrouper » Sun May 22, 2011 7:54 pm

Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?


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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Jasonw560 » Sun May 22, 2011 8:50 pm

hirundo82 wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?

I'm not sure it would be considered germane, judging from what Charles was saying in the SB1581 thread.

Kind of like a smoking ban in a fiscal bill?
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Paragrouper » Sun May 22, 2011 9:04 pm

Jasonw560 wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?

I'm not sure it would be considered germane, judging from what Charles was saying in the SB1581 thread.

Kind of like a smoking ban in a fiscal bill?


Yep, kind of like that!

it's funny, I'm sitting here going through the mail and I just got a letter from the Texas GOP asking for money. What do you think?

a. Send them some money?
b. Send them a note to inform them that their request is not germane to my desires?
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby apostate » Sun May 22, 2011 9:37 pm

Paragrouper wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?

I'm not sure it would be considered germane, judging from what Charles was saying in the SB1581 thread.

Kind of like a smoking ban in a fiscal bill?


Yep, kind of like that!

it's funny, I'm sitting here going through the mail and I just got a letter from the Texas GOP asking for money. What do you think?

a. Send them some money?
b. Send them a note to inform them that their request is not germane to my desires?

In all honesty, I would write back and tell them I can't support the Texas GOP with time or money after what House Speaker Straus did to campus carry. I would also tell them not to contact me again until they put the needs of students ahead of the needs of criminals.

I wouldn't bother telling them I'm thinking of changing my voter registration, after being stabbed in the back again (but I am.)
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Coogan » Sun May 22, 2011 10:00 pm

Jasonw560 wrote:So, if it makes to a vote, will Kleinschmidt still offer his amendment? Or is it gutted to much?

Since it is on the Local and Consent calendar, I don't think any amendments can be offered. Someone would have to talk for 10 minutes when it is brought up in the House, which would kill it from the Local and Consent calendar, and it would have to go back to calendars to be rescheduled. At least, I think this is how it would work.

I am a little in disbelief that they re-added the part about the legislator's exemptions. I looked at the House web site for video of the proceedings on May 19th, but it hasn't been posted yet, and it may not be posted if it was done as an informal meeting.

I know politics is crooked, but this is really crooked. This one bothers me.

Oh, and the smoking ban being germane to the fiscal bill, that bothers me too.


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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby hirundo82 » Sun May 22, 2011 11:19 pm

Coogan wrote:Since it is on the Local and Consent calendar, I don't think any amendments can be offered. Someone would have to talk for 10 minutes when it is brought up in the House, which would kill it from the Local and Consent calendar, and it would have to go back to calendars to be rescheduled. At least, I think this is how it would work.

Either that, or find 5 representatives to stand in opposition:

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Resolutions Calendars — During the consideration of a local, consent, and
resolutions calendar set by the Committee on Local and Consent Calendars the
following procedures shall be observed:
(1) The chair shall allow the sponsor of each bill or resolution three
minutes to explain the measure, and the time shall not be extended except by
unanimous consent of the house. This rule shall have precedence over all other
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(2) If it develops that any bill or resolution on a local, consent, and
resolutions calendar is to be contested on the fl oor of the house, the chair shall
withdraw the bill or resolution from further consideration and remove it from
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(3) Any bill or resolution on a local, consent, and resolutions calendar
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby artx » Mon May 23, 2011 12:24 am

Has someone seen SB 905 on Local and Uncontested calender itself? The status from the website shows that the house committee recommended it for the calendar -but that calendar's committee hasn't placed it yet (Usually says 'considered in calendars' when it is actually considered, and "placed on 'blah calendar" when actually added to a calendar)

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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby JJVP » Mon May 23, 2011 11:44 am

If SB905 ends up passing, I would suggest we start a campaign of letters, faxes, emails and calls to Perry indicating our wish that he vetoes the bill. :nono:
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby OCD » Mon May 23, 2011 12:07 pm

JJVP wrote:If SB905 ends up passing, I would suggest we start a campaign of letters, faxes, emails and calls to Perry indicating our wish that he vetoes the bill. :nono:

I agree. I also hope the Campus Republicans at A&M campaign against Ogden for his work to deny students civil rights on campus.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby TexasBill » Tue May 24, 2011 12:45 am

SB905 isn't on the Local and Uncontested Calendar for today (May 24). I don't know if that means it hasn't yet been scheduled or if five representatives have indicated they oppose it, which would prevent it being added to the LUC.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby RPB » Tue May 24, 2011 8:16 am

A tweet I read yesterday said committee removed all TX Legislators from the bill ... so it only allows like Federal Judges now. Committee decided, as Birdwell put it ... not to feed the TX Generals before the TX Soldiers I think.

We'll see what happens.

Nope I didn't see it on any of today or tomorrow's calendars, but 2 "gun bills" are tomorrow/s Senate Local Calendar

HB 25 boats and the CHL with a foster child bill
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Jasonw560 » Tue May 24, 2011 8:22 am

RPB wrote:A tweet I read yesterday said committee removed all TX Legislators from the bill ... so it only allows like Federal Judges now. Committee decided, as Birdwell put it ... not to feed the TX Generals before the TX Soldiers I think.

We'll see what happens.

Nope I didn't see it on any of today or tomorrow's calendars, but 2 "gun bills" are tomorrow/s Senate Local Calendar

HB 25 boats and the CHL with a foster child bill

Maybe they decided to table it since it didn't include them.

Since the boats and foster child bills are on the local calendars, they should pass.

Ironic, since they're saying people can have guns in cars and boats around kids, but not on campuses around adults.
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