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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby Dave2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:27 pm

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GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.



Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

If the magnetism is as strong as what's portrayed on TV, maybe it could suck the gun out of its holster, straight to the side of the MRI machine, where it lands on its hammer with such force that the firing pin safety breaks and the gun goes off?

I guess you should only carry Glocks around MRI machines :biggrinjester:
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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby seamusTX » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:40 pm

There is exactly one case of a pistol discharging because of the magnetic field of an MRI machine. It happened New York in the 1990s and has been discussed on "gun boards" for a decade.

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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby Dave2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:53 pm

seamusTX wrote:There is exactly one case of a pistol discharging because of the magnetic field of an MRI machine. It happened New York in the 1990s and has been discussed on "gun boards" for a decade.

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I thought I was just applying borderline-hollywood physics to the situation, but I guess not.
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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby sjfcontrol » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:12 pm

Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.



Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

If the magnetism is as strong as what's portrayed on TV, maybe it could suck the gun out of its holster, straight to the side of the MRI machine, where it lands on its hammer with such force that the firing pin safety breaks and the gun goes off?

I guess you should only carry Glocks around MRI machines :biggrinjester:


I'd have to be one of those porcelain Glock-7's made in Germany, and that cost more than you make in a month! "rlol"
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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby Dave2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:13 pm

sjfcontrol wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.



Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

If the magnetism is as strong as what's portrayed on TV, maybe it could suck the gun out of its holster, straight to the side of the MRI machine, where it lands on its hammer with such force that the firing pin safety breaks and the gun goes off?

I guess you should only carry Glocks around MRI machines :biggrinjester:


I'd have to be one of those porcelain Glock-7's made in Germany, and that cost more than you make in a month! "rlol"

The firing pin might be titanium, but given how that 1911 managed to go off, I wonder what the striker is made out of? (I guess in yours, it's porcelain :mrgreen: )

Oooh, and I wonder if anyone has made a gun that's designed to not allow magnetic fields to disable its safeties?
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Re: Parking lots and employee handbooks?

Postby sjfcontrol » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:27 pm

Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.



Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

If the magnetism is as strong as what's portrayed on TV, maybe it could suck the gun out of its holster, straight to the side of the MRI machine, where it lands on its hammer with such force that the firing pin safety breaks and the gun goes off?

I guess you should only carry Glocks around MRI machines :biggrinjester:


I'd have to be one of those porcelain Glock-7's made in Germany, and that cost more than you make in a month! "rlol"

The firing pin might be titanium, but given how that 1911 managed to go off, I wonder what the striker is made out of? (I guess in yours, it's porcelain :mrgreen: )

Oooh, and I wonder if anyone has made a gun that's designed to not allow magnetic fields to disable its safeties?


Well, since Glock-7's don't show up on airport x-ray machines, there must not be any ferrous metal in it anywhere. It's all porcelain.

Nor can they be detected in parking lot sweeps (to get back on subject :lol: )
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