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New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:51 am
by Charles L. Cotton
TFC wrote: SB257 by Rodney Ellis: Let’s Victimize the Victim Twice!

Sen. Ellis wants victims to automatically become criminals. Charles L. Cotton

SB257 by Sen. Ellis leaves any thinking person scratching their head and wondering why on earth would he wants to victimize a person twice! According to this Bill, being the victim of a theft could well make you a criminal. If a firearm was stolen, the owner would have 48 hours to report the theft to a law enforcement agency and the time would begin to run when the gun owner knew or should have known that the firearm had been stolen.
The full article is at: http://www.TexasFirearmsCoalition.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:14 am
by Beiruty
If some stole my cellphone should I report it too? If not, would I become a criminal?
What kind of rubbish is that?

Charles, we need a fb share or on your website.

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:18 am
by joe817
That absurd bill might fly in anti-gun states, but in Texas??

I've heard of frivolous lawsuits getting thrown out of court, but how about frivolous bills getting thrown out? Will this even make it to committee?

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:04 am
by Charles L. Cotton
Beiruty wrote:Charles, we need a fb share or on your website.
I'm Facebook-challenged, so please explain. I'd love to get the word out to a broader audience. I post all of my articles on my Facebook page and on the Facebook page for the Texas Firearms Coalition. Is that what you mean?

Chas.

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:59 pm
by KC5AV
:txflag:

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:14 pm
by TexasCajun
joe817 wrote:That absurd bill might fly in anti-gun states, but in Texas??

I've heard of frivolous lawsuits getting thrown out of court, but how about frivolous bills getting thrown out? Will this even make it to committee?
It won't get anywhere. The senator is obviously pandering to his base/masters.

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:00 pm
by louisf1
Charles, there is a way to place a "like" button on your web pages in your articles. People could like your article and opt to place it on their Facebook or Twitter account. See this. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/pl ... ike-button" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:36 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
louisf1 wrote:Charles, there is a way to place a "like" button on your web pages in your articles. People could like your article and opt to place it on their Facebook or Twitter account. See this. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/pl ... ike-button" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Okay, this is a conspiracy! You guys are trying to get me to completely revamp the TFC website. I think you're plotting with my wife so she can collect my life insurance and split it with you.

Seriously, I can add the Facebook like button and a Twitter link as well, but I have to add another module called K2. I'll try to get this done soon; it would be a great way to help people spread the word and get more people involved our legislative efforts.

Chas.

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:00 pm
by ScooterSissy
sbrawley wrote:Wouldn't a rational law-abiding citizen report a stolen firearm the moment they realize it stolen? :headscratch Seems to me that the only ones who wouldn't, would be the criminals themselves, therefore, making this bill utterly pointless.
Unfortunately, the bill doesn't address "the moment they realize it stolen". The bill states an offense occurs if the owner "...fails to report the loss or theft to a peace officer or law enforcement agency on or before the 48th hour after the time the person knew or reasonably should have known the firearm was lost or stolen."

Who do you want to decide, for you, at what point you should have "reasonably" known a gun was lost?

I found a gun laying in the street, with a broken holster, in my neighborhood once. I'm about 99% sure some poor guy put it on top of his car meaning to put it in his car, only to have it fall off as a drove away. I don't know if he (or she) might have been driving to the grocery store, or might have been going to on a 500 mile trip down south. Who would get to decide at what point it is "reasonable" for him to have realized he's lost his gun?

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Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:10 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Beiruty wrote:Charles, we need a fb share or on your website.
I'm Facebook-challenged, so please explain. I'd love to get the word out to a broader audience. I post all of my articles on my Facebook page and on the Facebook page for the Texas Firearms Coalition. Is that what you mean?

Chas.
Charles, there are "facebook share" extensions for Joomla: http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... rfilters=1.

Here is an example of one: http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... o-facebook

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:38 pm
by Beiruty
For share button:
here is the 411:

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/pl ... re-button/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:29 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Beiruty wrote:For share button:
here is the 411:

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/pl ... re-button/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can't seem to make that work. It may be because it doesn't play well with Joomla.

Chas.

Re: New Article: Let's Victimize the Victim Twice!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:47 pm
by rbwhatever1
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Okay, this is a conspiracy! You guys are trying to get me to completely revamp the TFC website. I think you're plotting with my wife so she can collect my life insurance and split it with you.
Chas.
That was funny.

I read this guys District 13 page. He likes victimizing tax payers too...