HB 1298 and 1299
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HB 1298 and 1299
Filed today.
HB 1298 relates to CC at school sponsored functions and on the buses.
HB 1299 relates to prohibiting municipalities from making local laws against carrying knives, pepper spray, or stun guns.
I would link, but it's a pain on my phone.
HB 1298 relates to CC at school sponsored functions and on the buses.
HB 1299 relates to prohibiting municipalities from making local laws against carrying knives, pepper spray, or stun guns.
I would link, but it's a pain on my phone.
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I strongly recommend NOT weighing in on HB1298 at this time. I cannot say more now.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I strongly recommend NOT weighing in on HB1298 at this time. I cannot say more now.
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10-4Charles L. Cotton wrote:I strongly recommend NOT weighing in on HB1298 at this time. I cannot say more now.
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ILA is asking people to contact legislators with support now.
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So HB 1298 would make it legal to carry at a location where a school is having a field trip (eg. zoo, aquarium, etc.) provided that the CHL holder is not participating in the field trip? That's a step in the right direction, but it seems like an awfully small step. Am I missing something?
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The more-sweeping proposals tend to get the media coverage, but it's often the smaller measures that actually succeed in effecting positive change. Baby steps toward a more-uniform penal code are, at the very least, steps in the right direction.TrueFlog wrote:So HB 1298 would make it legal to carry at a location where a school is having a field trip (eg. zoo, aquarium, etc.) provided that the CHL holder is not participating in the field trip? That's a step in the right direction, but it seems like an awfully small step. Am I missing something?
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It already is legal.TrueFlog wrote:So HB 1298 would make it legal to carry at a location where a school is having a field trip (eg. zoo, aquarium, etc.) provided that the CHL holder is not participating in the field trip? That's a step in the right direction, but it seems like an awfully small step. Am I missing something?
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Yep. Did one of theseCharles L. Cotton wrote:It already is legal.TrueFlog wrote:So HB 1298 would make it legal to carry at a location where a school is having a field trip (eg. zoo, aquarium, etc.) provided that the CHL holder is not participating in the field trip? That's a step in the right direction, but it seems like an awfully small step. Am I missing something?
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Isn't that why they claim to put 30.06 signs at zoo's? "For school functions."
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I don't know of any zoos that continue to do this now, but that was the case in the past. The claim was bogus. I agree that the code should be amended, not to change current law, but to clarify current law so that intellectually dishonest people cannot continue to intimidate CHL's. HB1298 in its current form is not the way to go about it. Look for a committee substitute.MeMelYup wrote:Isn't that why they claim to put 30.06 signs at zoo's? "For school functions."
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The last time I was at the Dallas Zoo it was properly posted 30.06 (well, not properly because its owned by the city, but the sign was correct verbiage and size). I just carried past because I knew it wasn't valid. Admittedly, that was a bit over a year ago.Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't know of any zoos that continue to do this now, but that was the case in the past. The claim was bogus. I agree that the code should be amended, not to change current law, but to clarify current law so that intellectually dishonest people cannot continue to intimidate CHL's. HB1298 in its current form is not the way to go about it. Look for a committee substitute.MeMelYup wrote:Isn't that why they claim to put 30.06 signs at zoo's? "For school functions."
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I don't think I understand what the purpose of 1298 is? I have taken my son to museums when 'in walks a school trip"
I certainly don't walk out to my car and disarm... I've also gone to places where a trip is already there, there has been no sign, what are they talking about????
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PC Sec. 46.03(a)(1) [emphasis added]:SewTexas wrote:I don't think I understand what the purpose of 1298 is? I have taken my son to museums when 'in walks a school trip"I certainly don't walk out to my car and disarm... I've also gone to places where a trip is already there, there has been no sign, what are they talking about????
The wording of the law is ambiguous, to say the least. Charles has made the case that, due to context, this law could not be enforced against someone on non-school property; however, that is not what DPS is currently teaching new instructors, and in turn, that is not what a lot of new instructors are teaching their students. Equally troubling is the fact that the managers of certain public venues have used this law as an excuse to improperly post 30.06 signs on the premises.Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;
PC Sec. 46.03(a)(1) is a poorly worded law that causes unneeded confusion, and it needs to be clarified.
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