Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby cmwoodruff » Tue May 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Bend over to pick up keys and your shirt lifts enough for others to see it.. unintensional.. and legal.

Lift shirt to show someone you're packin'.. intentional.. and illegal.


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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby baldeagle » Tue May 21, 2013 8:04 pm

HB 48 just passed. Three more to go.
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Postby artx » Tue May 21, 2013 8:09 pm

baldeagle wrote:HB 48 just passed. Three more to go.


Wonderful :anamatedbanana

Also, is HB3148 (remove Sa/NSA categories?) up tonight? I missed this bill entirely this session.

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Postby Keith B » Tue May 21, 2013 8:25 pm

Unintentional unconcealment is not illegal and never has been. However, the current wording 'fails to conceal' sticks in the head of many and they don't remember the 'intentionally' part in front of it. This includes law enforcement who arrest someone for failing to conceal when it was really unintentional.

With the wording change, I say that 'display' means to purposely show the item as a shopkeeper would display their merchandise. When you display something you WANT it to be seen. So, I believe the change will definitely clear up the misinterpretation if a weapon gets accidentally exposed and will help prevent those who might be in a position to cause the CHL problems if they see the weapon from hassling them.

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby TxLobo » Tue May 21, 2013 8:44 pm

Am I understanding HB 508 correctly with the Carona Amendment?

Basically the Texas Legislature voted themselves elite status? .. :headscratch

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 08S2F1.HTM


Please tell me I'm understanding this incorrectly.. all the strikethrough and underlined text, (especially in capitals) gives me a headache.
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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby baldeagle » Tue May 21, 2013 8:56 pm

TxLobo wrote:Am I understanding HB 508 correctly with the Carona Amendment?

Basically the Texas Legislature voted themselves elite status? .. :headscratch

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 08S2F1.HTM


Please tell me I'm understanding this incorrectly.. all the strikethrough and underlined text, (especially in capitals) gives me a headache.

You are understanding it correctly.
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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby baldeagle » Tue May 21, 2013 9:01 pm

artx wrote:
baldeagle wrote:HB 48 just passed. Three more to go.


Wonderful :anamatedbanana

Also, is HB3148 (remove Sa/NSA categories?) up tonight? I missed this bill entirely this session.

??? I think you mean HB 3142, and yes, it's on today's intent calendar. They just extended the session to 10:30 tonight, so maybe it will come up.
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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby TxLobo » Tue May 21, 2013 9:05 pm

Thank you sir..


somehow, I'm not that surprised.. but somewhere in the deep recesses of my mind, I remember the Gov saying that he would like to see it where every CHL holder could carry anywhere... So maybe he will send this one back to them to fix..
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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue May 21, 2013 9:14 pm

TxLobo wrote:Thank you sir..


somehow, I'm not that surprised.. but somewhere in the deep recesses of my mind, I remember the Gov saying that he would like to see it where every CHL holder could carry anywhere... So maybe he will send this one back to them to fix..


The Governor can't send it back. If he vetoes it, it's a major loss for Texas CHLs! The Carona amendment will be used to our advantage in 2015.

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby baldeagle » Tue May 21, 2013 10:15 pm

HB 3142 just passed 29 ayes, 2 nays. SB 1400 was attached by amendment.
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Postby artx » Tue May 21, 2013 10:23 pm

baldeagle wrote:HB 3142 just passed 29 ayes, 2 nays. SB 1400 was attached by amendment.


Great-I had to take a break from watching the CSHB 500 process and missed it!

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby G26ster » Tue May 21, 2013 10:25 pm

Exactly what is the benefit in HB 3142? I'm having trouble with the lineouts. Does it eliminate the SA/NSA categories, and allow someone who qualifies with a revolver to carry either the revolver or SA, just as qualifying with a SA allows carry of either?

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue May 21, 2013 10:28 pm

HB3142 removes the SA/NSA distinction. SB1400 that prevents cities from regulation the ownership and possession of airguns was added to HB3142 as an amendment. The House will probably concur, but if not, a conference committee will be appointed. HB3142 should be fine.

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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby baldeagle » Tue May 21, 2013 10:32 pm

Looks like campus carry (HB 972) will die again this session. You young pups will have to take up the torch. I give up.

Looks like they're doing cleanup now before adjourning for the night.
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Re: Gun bills on the Senate intent calendar today

Postby artx » Tue May 21, 2013 10:39 pm

baldeagle wrote:Looks like campus carry (HB 972) will die again this session. You young pups will have to take up the torch. I give up.

Looks like they're doing cleanup now before adjourning for the night.


Isn't tomorrow still a possibility (or am I reading the calendar wrong here)http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/DeadlineActionCalendar.pdf


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