General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby v7a » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:15 pm

Looks like the hearing notice was just updated and SB346 was replaced with newly filed SB17 (with identical bill text)?

SB 17 Estes
Relating to the authority of a person who is licensed to carry a handgun to openly carry a holstered handgun; creating a criminal offense; providing penalties.

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SB 17

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SB 346


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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby gsansing » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:47 pm

v7a wrote:Looks like the hearing notice was just updated and SB346 was replaced with newly filed SB17 (with identical bill text)?

SB 17 Estes
Relating to the authority of a person who is licensed to carry a handgun to openly carry a holstered handgun; creating a criminal offense; providing penalties.

Bills added after last posting:
SB 17

Bills deleted after last posting:
SB 346


I noticed this myself, what does this mean? I understand the hearing aspect, but why was it assigned a new bill number?
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:48 pm

gsansing wrote:
v7a wrote:Looks like the hearing notice was just updated and SB346 was replaced with newly filed SB17 (with identical bill text)?

SB 17 Estes
Relating to the authority of a person who is licensed to carry a handgun to openly carry a holstered handgun; creating a criminal offense; providing penalties.

Bills added after last posting:
SB 17

Bills deleted after last posting:
SB 346


I noticed this myself, what does this mean? I understand the hearing aspect, but why was it assigned a new bill number?


SB346 was given one of the reserved low bill numbers; i.e. SB17.

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby joe817 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:33 pm

It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:40 am

joe817 wrote:It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.


Unless there is a system failure, it will be broadcast. I suggest unloading your handgun before watching; monitors are easy to replace, but you'll miss the rest of the hearing.

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby TXBO » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:53 am

SB17 could actually lead to less TPC30.06's. If the requirements for TPC30.07 are identical to TPC30.06, I don't envision many businesses wanting to post both.

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby joe817 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:22 pm

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joe817 wrote:It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.


Unless there is a system failure, it will be broadcast. I suggest unloading your handgun before watching; monitors are easy to replace, but you'll miss the rest of the hearing.

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Indeed. If I took blood pressure medicine, I would definitely take a dose before watching. ;-)
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby mojo84 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:32 pm

I want to watch but not sure I can handle watching the sausage being made.


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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby locke_n_load » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:07 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
joe817 wrote:It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.


Unless there is a system failure, it will be broadcast. I suggest unloading your handgun before watching; monitors are easy to replace, but you'll miss the rest of the hearing.

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Why is there a consensus that this hearing will be infuriating to watch? Seems that 346/17 removes concealed from the CHL law and creates a 30.07 specifically for OC, which seems like a reasonable bill for licensed OC.
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby MeMelYup » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:16 pm

locke_n_load wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
joe817 wrote:It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.


Unless there is a system failure, it will be broadcast. I suggest unloading your handgun before watching; monitors are easy to replace, but you'll miss the rest of the hearing.

Chas.


Why is there a consensus that this hearing will be infuriating to watch? Seems that 346/17 removes concealed from the CHL law and creates a 30.07 specifically for OC, which seems like a reasonable bill for licensed OC.

There are those who will condemn it because it is not "constitutional carry." Then you have groups like MDA that will condemn it because they are scared when they see a gun without a badge. Call 911 and swat them.

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby joe817 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:19 pm

locke_n_load wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
joe817 wrote:It would be really interesting to watch the committee meeting when they present SB17. I hope it's broadcast.


Unless there is a system failure, it will be broadcast. I suggest unloading your handgun before watching; monitors are easy to replace, but you'll miss the rest of the hearing.

Chas.


Why is there a consensus that this hearing will be infuriating to watch? Seems that 346/17 removes concealed from the CHL law and creates a 30.07 specifically for OC, which seems like a reasonable bill for licensed OC.


Because SB17 is fast tracked to wind its way through the legislative process. And because of that there has been a 'call to arms' by the militant OC groups to attend and testify against that bill.

Here's the related topic and the 'call to arms' of CATI.

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=76172

It's a good bill and IIRC endorsed by both NRA & TSRA. :thumbs2:
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby locke_n_load » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:36 pm

Any chance anyone will testify something like "this is a good bill and I support it, though me and others prefer unlicensed carry."?
I prefer Constitutional Carry but don't want OC killed altogether because of infighting.
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby mojo84 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:44 pm

I say support all the pro gun legislation and take what we can get whether it be licensed or unlicensed. I would think only talk about the bill that is on the table for that particular hearing. That's just my opinion.

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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby joe817 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:32 pm

It appears that there are 2 Bills that will come before the Committee on State Affairs on Thursday, 2/12/2015:

SB17 - Licensed Open Carry
SB11 - Campus Carry

Those are the only 2 Bills up for discussion before the Committee on Thursday from what I can tell.

It should be a VERY interesting meeting, and I urge all of you who can, watch the goings on in the Committee:

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/Reports/Re ... &Code=C570 - The full listing of Senate Bills

The below is a schedule of Senate Committee Meetings for the remainder of the month:

http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/events.php

More great info is posted about watching committee meetings on the TFC homepage.

[edited to correct date. Duh. :oops: ]
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Re: General 2015 Legislative Session Discussion

Postby Ruark » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:40 pm

joe817 wrote:It appears that there are 2 Bills that will come before the Committee on State Affairs on Thursday, 2/10/2015:


Uh..... the 10th is today (Tuesday). Thursday is the 12th. I wish I had known about this earlier; I would have arranged to speak.
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