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Re: HB308

Postby cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 2:11 pm

Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?


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Re: HB308

Postby CJD » Tue May 05, 2015 2:12 pm

cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?

No that's 910


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Re: HB308

Postby cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 2:31 pm

Yeah, that's right. To many numbers for this cob web brain of mine! :confused5

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Re: HB308

Postby RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 2:34 pm

CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?

No that's 910

Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm
See section 4
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Re: HB308

Postby CJD » Tue May 05, 2015 3:37 pm

RoyGBiv wrote:
CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?

No that's 910

Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm
See section 4

Yes but he asked about 30.06!

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Re: HB308

Postby RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 4:13 pm

CJD wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?

No that's 910

Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm
See section 4

Yes but he asked about 30.06!

I see... yes.. private property 30.06 violation would remain class A under HB 308 as originally proposed.
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Re: HB308

Postby cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 6:51 pm

I'm anxious to hear Charles' assessment as you know there's bound to be committee substitutions and compromises. But its good to see movement because I was afraid it was going to die in committee. Give a little...get a little.

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Re: HB308

Postby C-dub » Tue May 05, 2015 7:01 pm

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:Correct. The committee substitute will be significantly different, but again, I can't comment until I'm sure the substitute is what I was given. If so, then we will not be exempt from §46.03.

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As in, licensed carry within governmental buildings (in this case institutions of higher education) would still be prohibited?

I'm still watching for updates to the status of HB308 and new text...

I might be reading your question wrong, but you do know that governmental buildings are not off limits unless certain circumstances are met, right? And although schools are governmental buildings, they are mentioned specifically as being off limits. You probably know this, but I just wanted to make sure. Other states prohibit concealed carriers from carrying in government buildings.
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Re: HB308

Postby TexasJohnBoy » Tue May 05, 2015 7:18 pm

Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.
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Re: HB308

Postby C-dub » Tue May 05, 2015 7:43 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.

Cool.

From earlier posts, the current text with the committee substitute may not be available yet.
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Re: HB308

Postby RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 9:17 pm

C-dub wrote:
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.

Cool.

From earlier posts, the current text with the committee substitute may not be available yet.

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Re: HB308

Postby RoyGBiv » Thu May 07, 2015 8:51 am

Still no new text posted online...
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... Bill=HB308

Anyone have any news on what's changed in the committee substitute? :bigear:
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Re: HB308

Postby tornado » Fri May 08, 2015 8:15 am

I haven't read it, but the new text is up. http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... Bill=HB308

EDIT: I've read it. Highlights:
  • Class C unless oral warning and didn't leave, then Class A
  • Clarifies being around a field trip (but allow carry in schools unless the school allows it in written regulations or written authorization)
  • removes the hospital, amusement park, religious center, and judge/DA sections that were already defense to prosecution
  • adds resident retired federal judges
This is not the HB308 I knew and loved. I like the class reduction, but making it all go away would have been so much better.
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Re: HB308

Postby RHenriksen » Fri May 08, 2015 8:33 am

From what I can figure out on first reading of the committee substitute, we get a reduction of violating a 30.06 sign from Class A misdemeanor to Class C, and.... I really can't see anything else of significance.
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Re: HB308

Postby joelamosobadiah » Fri May 08, 2015 8:40 am

From what I see it clears up a lot of uncertainty around schools, particularly field trips, it clears up the confusion having hospitals, churches, and amusement parks listed even though they have to post 30.06 anyway, and reduces the penalty.


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