Possible shooting at UCLA

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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby koine2002 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:11 am

TexasJohnBoy wrote:http://abc7.com/news/ucla-on-lockdown-amid-reports-of-shooting/1366494/
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-ln-ucla-sh ... story.html

Didn't CA just pass stricter laws and a gun ban on college campuses?


http://gawker.com/sources-ucla-student-shot-professor-over-grades-1779982161And it turns out that it was because a student was distraught over his grades. One can look at this in one of two ways. We can have trepidation about campus carry. That would be rather irrational since UCLA doesn't have campus carry. On the other hand, we can say that professor, had there been campus carry and had he been armed, might very well be alive today.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby philip964 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:40 am

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Drove from Minneapolis to LA to commit suicide. Murdered a woman there before he left. He was 38.

Accused the professor of stealing his code. Had been writing bad things about the professor on social media for some time.

Seems like professors are defenseless against nut job students and former students.

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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby JALLEN » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:03 am

It appears this guy had already graduated, Ph.D.

This is no different than a hitman going to "push a button" on a guy. Nothing whatsoever to do with campus carry.

Besides, he violated a whole slew of California and Los Angeles laws besides murder. No laws would have stopped this.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby TexasJohnBoy » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:37 am

JALLEN wrote:It appears this guy had already graduated, Ph.D.

This is no different than a hitman going to "push a button" on a guy. Nothing whatsoever to do with campus carry.

Besides, he violated a whole slew of California and Los Angeles laws besides murder. No laws would have stopped this.


The least of which is California's prohibition against firearms on campus, licensed or otherwise.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby allisji » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:29 pm

I wonder if this man was religious in any way. I read that he did his undergrad in Kharagpur India. Certainly, India is predominantly Hindu. Kharagpur is in the West Bengal state, which is on the Eastern side of India. It so happens to be about 100 miles from the Bangladesh border. Bangladesh, by the way, is 90% muslim. I'm curious if this man was Hindu, muslim, or something else. I am not saying that religion was a factor in this murder spree. It seems unlikely based on the currently reporting. However, there are lots of gaps in the current reporting. I'm sure that the investigation will look into which religious circles that this man has associated in, if any. But I doubt that the results of that investigating will even be reported.

I know followers of Islam and have friends who practice that faith. So I apologize to them at I am asking about this man's faith. I was only interested because I once met a Christian teacher who shared a last name with the UCLA killer. The last name was Sarkar (Hindu origins I believe). The Christian teacher was a Bangladeshi convert from Islam.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby WildBill » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:34 pm

allisji wrote:I wonder if this man was religious in any way. I read that he did his undergrad in Kharagpur India. Certainly, India is predominantly Hindu. Kharagpur is in the West Bengal state, which is on the Eastern side of India. It so happens to be about 100 miles from the Bangladesh border. Bangladesh, by the way, is 90% muslim. I'm curious if this man was Hindu, muslim, or something else. I am not saying that religion was a factor in this murder spree. It seems unlikely based on the currently reporting. However, there are lots of gaps in the current reporting. I'm sure that the investigation will look into which religious circles that this man has associated in, if any. But I doubt that the results of that investigating will even be reported.

I know followers of Islam and have friends who practice that faith. So I apologize to them at I am asking about this man's faith. I was only interested because I once met a Christian teacher who shared a last name with the UCLA killer. The last name was Sarkar (Hindu origins I believe). The Christian teacher was a Bangladeshi convert from Islam.

I don't believe that religion had any bearing on the murders and can not imagine how it would be relevant.
It sounds like the man had severe mental problems and the breakup with his girlfriend was the trigger that lead to her murder and that of the professor. :tiphat:
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby allisji » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:57 pm

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allisji wrote:I wonder if this man was religious in any way. I read that he did his undergrad in Kharagpur India. Certainly, India is predominantly Hindu. Kharagpur is in the West Bengal state, which is on the Eastern side of India. It so happens to be about 100 miles from the Bangladesh border. Bangladesh, by the way, is 90% muslim. I'm curious if this man was Hindu, muslim, or something else. I am not saying that religion was a factor in this murder spree. It seems unlikely based on the currently reporting. However, there are lots of gaps in the current reporting. I'm sure that the investigation will look into which religious circles that this man has associated in, if any. But I doubt that the results of that investigating will even be reported.

I know followers of Islam and have friends who practice that faith. So I apologize to them at I am asking about this man's faith. I was only interested because I once met a Christian teacher who shared a last name with the UCLA killer. The last name was Sarkar (Hindu origins I believe). The Christian teacher was a Bangladeshi convert from Islam.

I don't believe that religion had any bearing on the murders and can not imagine how it would be relevant.
It sounds like the man had severe mental problems and the breakup with his girlfriend was the trigger that lead to her murder and that of the professor. :tiphat:


Did not know that the woman in Minnesota was a girlfriend. Still not sure what that has to do with his former advisor at UCLA stealing his code. Anger can drive a man to great lengths. In this case it drove this man from Minnesota to LA. Maybe he was also mad that LA stole the Lakers from Minneapolis?
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby philip964 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:00 pm

Certainly this was a mental condition. Not related to religion or race. His coming from Minneapolis and being from India, he could be Muslim. Doubtful we will find out, especially since, he is being referred to as "white" in the press.

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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby WildBill » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:02 pm

allisji wrote:
WildBill wrote:
allisji wrote:I wonder if this man was religious in any way. I read that he did his undergrad in Kharagpur India. Certainly, India is predominantly Hindu. Kharagpur is in the West Bengal state, which is on the Eastern side of India. It so happens to be about 100 miles from the Bangladesh border. Bangladesh, by the way, is 90% muslim. I'm curious if this man was Hindu, muslim, or something else. I am not saying that religion was a factor in this murder spree. It seems unlikely based on the currently reporting. However, there are lots of gaps in the current reporting. I'm sure that the investigation will look into which religious circles that this man has associated in, if any. But I doubt that the results of that investigating will even be reported.

I know followers of Islam and have friends who practice that faith. So I apologize to them at I am asking about this man's faith. I was only interested because I once met a Christian teacher who shared a last name with the UCLA killer. The last name was Sarkar (Hindu origins I believe). The Christian teacher was a Bangladeshi convert from Islam.

I don't believe that religion had any bearing on the murders and can not imagine how it would be relevant.
It sounds like the man had severe mental problems and the breakup with his girlfriend was the trigger that lead to her murder and that of the professor. :tiphat:


Did not know that the woman in Minnesota was a girlfriend. Still not sure what that has to do with his former advisor at UCLA stealing his code. Anger can drive a man to great lengths. In this case it drove this man from Minnesota to LA. Maybe he was also mad that LA stole the Lakers from Minneapolis?

The woman in Minnesota was a former girlfriend who broke up with him.
I doubt that the professor stole his code. It sounds to me that the man was paranoid and mentally ill.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby joe817 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:23 pm

I heard on KRLD(local news only radio station in DFW) that the shooter had a note in his pocket, that the police found, that said "please check on my cat'" which led the local police in Minnesota to his address, which they found AND they found the "hit list". One name on the list was the woman he murdered. The local LEO'S followed up on the list and found her.

What in the world was his motive? I dunno.
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Re: Possible shooting at UCLA

Postby philip964 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:57 am

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/us/ucla-s ... index.html

Woman murdered was his wife. Don't know if they were estranged.

He entered the US on a student visa, but was granted legal status. May not have been interviewed before change was made.

It is being reported that his religion was changed from Muslim to Hindu on his on line bio after the shooting.


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