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Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:10 am
by TomV
The DMN article says the driver "returned fire". I think the teen(s) shot first.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:44 am
by puma guy
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Filing a UCW charge against someone after a righteous shooting was simply not done in years past. I cannot recall it ever having happened, but I may be wrong.

TPC §46.02(a)(2) may provide a safe haven for the intended victim. Which way was the intended victim walking? Will direction of travel really make a difference? (See below.) Tactics would seem to indicate a robber would wait until after the pizza was delivered when the delivery man would possibly have more money and the homeowner would not be looking out the window/door for dinner.

Chas.
TPC §46.02 wrote:Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:

(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or

(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
I believe the article stated the delivery address was a vacant house, so the actors knew they would only get what money the driver had with him and laid in wait I suppose. The driver may have noticed the house was vacant been suspicious and prepared himself. He could even have remained in his car and called in to check the address. There's so little detail it's difficult to know what occurred at this point. I hope he's not charged, but if he is hopefully a jury will acquit.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:01 am
by Beiruty
He would not be charged, under the "necessity rule"

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:58 am
by Soccerdad1995
If this driver violated the law, then the law needs to be changed.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:38 pm
by LeonCarr
Are the perpetrator's parents going to be charged for PC 46.13 Making A Firearm Accessible To A Child?

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:21 pm
by apostate
carlson1 wrote:It is ashame even in Texas you can't defend yourself unless you have a LTC. :banghead: I guess you just let some kids shoot you.
That's exactly why the Texas Municipal Police Association, Combined Law Enforcement Association of Texas, Houston Police Officers Union, Dallas Police Officers Union, Dallas County Sheriff, Texas Gun Sense [sic] and Art Acevedo oppose HB 1911. They want crime victims to die.

If the crime victims refuse to lay down and die and have the nerve to fight back, they want the crime victims to go to prison.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:36 pm
by bblhd672
apostate wrote:That's exactly why the Texas Municipal Police Association, Combined Law Enforcement Association of Texas, Houston Police Officers Union, Dallas Police Officers Union, Dallas County Sheriff, Texas Gun Sense [sic] and Art Acevedo oppose HB 1911.
All of those people are free to set an example by disarming first. Obviously their thinking is that means of self defense is not necessary, so why they carrying guns?

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:41 pm
by apostate
bblhd672 wrote:
apostate wrote:That's exactly why the Texas Municipal Police Association, Combined Law Enforcement Association of Texas, Houston Police Officers Union, Dallas Police Officers Union, Dallas County Sheriff, Texas Gun Sense [sic] and Art Acevedo oppose HB 1911.
All of those people are free to set an example by disarming first. Obviously their thinking is that means of self defense is not necessary, so why they carrying guns?
They don't want to die. They want us to die, or go to jail for refusing to be victims.

They're wolves on two legs. No other explanation for it.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:37 pm
by carlson1
The delivery driver did an interview with Fox 4 Dallas. He is an Air Force Veteran. They said he held a license on and off here in Texas, but do to Arizona being easier and cheaper he does have an Arizona Permit. They also reported that the Police told Fox 4 that Texas honors the permit from Arizona.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:10 am
by Charles L. Cotton
This thread has been unlocked. If it again turns into general COP-bashing, it will be permanently locked.

Chas.

Re: Dominos Driver Kills Robber

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:38 pm
by Ed4032
Charles L. Cotton wrote:This thread has been unlocked. If it again turns into general COP-bashing, it will be permanently locked.

Chas.
Thanks Charles for keeping us on track.