Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby Jusme » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:03 pm

bblhd672 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:Ft. Worth Star Telegram Editorial Board says in opinion piece: http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/editorials/article132522579.html
The neighbor in this case apparently had every “right” under the law to kill. But killing in the defense of property can never be right.
Shooting someone can only be right when it is to protect a person.


Liberals hardly ever can be on the side of law abiding citizens.


Here's how I think about it.

Is a car (or it's contents) worth a human life? Well I know it's not worth my life, or the lives of my loved ones, because I know the value of those lives. I would think that it's also not worth the life of a random person who I find in my driveway in the middle of the night.

But here's the thing. That random person believes their life is not worth more than my car, since they decided that is a potential trade off they are willing to make the moment they decided to steal my car. And who am I to think that I know the value of their life better then they do? If they really value their life that low, then I'm not going to waste time arguing with them about it.


The Star Telegraph said "killing in the defense of property can never be right" - did not say car/truck/van, they said "property." They think anything you own is not worth using deadly force to protect. They believe anything a store/business owns is not worth using deadly force to protect. They are idiots disguised as journalists.


That's because they have never been victimized by theft, and they believe that the garbage walking around trying to take what we work for, are justified because they are "victims" of society. They have no concept of right and wrong, they only see a death. While I agree the death could have been prevented, the prevention should have come from the 17 year old not becoming a thief. The Socialist left believe that if they want something you have, they are justified in taking it. Hopefully, someone else will change their mindset and not be the next one shot stealing something.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby WTR » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:13 pm

I will never take a life over material possessions ( besides, I'm insured out the ying yang). Now threaten my family, all bets are off.


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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby locke_n_load » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:24 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:Ft. Worth Star Telegram Editorial Board says in opinion piece: http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/editorials/article132522579.html
The neighbor in this case apparently had every “right” under the law to kill. But killing in the defense of property can never be right.
Shooting someone can only be right when it is to protect a person.


Liberals hardly ever can be on the side of law abiding citizens.


Here's how I think about it.

Is a car (or it's contents) worth a human life? Well I know it's not worth my life, or the lives of my loved ones, because I know the value of those lives. I would think that it's also not worth the life of a random person who I find in my driveway in the middle of the night.

But here's the thing. That random person believes their life is not worth more than my car, since they decided that is a potential trade off they are willing to make the moment they decided to steal my car. And who am I to think that I know the value of their life better then they do? If they really value their life that low, then I'm not going to waste time arguing with them about it.


There is a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I don't know how I would feel if they stole it and killed someone with it, if at the time of the theft, I was there to stop it.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby Jusme » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:28 pm

WTR wrote:I will never take a life over material possessions ( besides, I'm insured out the ying yang). Now threaten my family, all bets are off.




I hope and pray that I never have to make that decision. I have been the victim of theft, I lost my grandfather's 16 gauge Ithaca pump shotgun and several other irreplaceable things, several years ago, and had no renters insurance. ( was in my 20's and could barely afford rent) Since then I have better security, and insurance, but I still know what everything cost. I detest a thief. I will give someone the shirt off my back if they are in need, but don't try to steal from me. I don't know if I could drop the hammer on someone trying to break into my vehicle, but I will confront them armed and ready. If they come into my home, I have no idea what their intentions are, and I won't waste a lot of time, in a discussion over it. JMHO
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby jason812 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:48 pm

locke_n_load wrote:
There is a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I don't know how I would feel if they stole it and killed someone with it, if at the time of the theft, I was there to stop it.


:iagree: Plus, you don't know if they have it or not when you confront them. It would suck to get shot, it would suck more to get shot by your own gun.


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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby locke_n_load » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:11 pm

jason812 wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:
There is a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I don't know how I would feel if they stole it and killed someone with it, if at the time of the theft, I was there to stop it.


:iagree: Plus, you don't know if they have it or not when you confront them. It would suck to get shot, it would suck more to get shot by your own gun.


Exactly.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby rotor » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:37 pm

WTR wrote:I will never take a life over material possessions ( besides, I'm insured out the ying yang). Now threaten my family, all bets are off.

My daughter's car was stolen right out of her yard. A 1 year old Nissan Altima. After her insurance paid off she was still out many thousands so the argument that insurance covers it is not valid. My daughter does not have the finances that she can afford that type of loss and therefore her loss was also my loss. Be realistic though, is there no monetary loss that you would kill to protect? How about your home, life savings, retirement fund, ability to pay for your child's cancer therapy, whatever scenario you want? When someone steals what is yours they may be depriving yours from some life saving necessity. This is where the Saudi's have better punishment for crimes. You know, pick pockets and caught you lose your hand. Do it twice you lose both. If one steals from another they may end up paying the maximum price for their crime- right or wrong.

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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby apvonkanel » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:27 pm

locke_n_load wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:Ft. Worth Star Telegram Editorial Board says in opinion piece: http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/editorials/article132522579.html
The neighbor in this case apparently had every “right” under the law to kill. But killing in the defense of property can never be right.
Shooting someone can only be right when it is to protect a person.


Liberals hardly ever can be on the side of law abiding citizens.


Here's how I think about it.

Is a car (or it's contents) worth a human life? Well I know it's not worth my life, or the lives of my loved ones, because I know the value of those lives. I would think that it's also not worth the life of a random person who I find in my driveway in the middle of the night.

But here's the thing. That random person believes their life is not worth more than my car, since they decided that is a potential trade off they are willing to make the moment they decided to steal my car. And who am I to think that I know the value of their life better then they do? If they really value their life that low, then I'm not going to waste time arguing with them about it.


There is a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I don't know how I would feel if they stole it and killed someone with it, if at the time of the theft, I was there to stop it.

I agree with this very much. In this case, it is reasonable to believe that the property being stolen will lead to loss of life, which personally justifies deadly force to prevent. I don't believe that my vehicle is worth anyone's life. However, there are many instances where a thief/burglar would be willing to take my (or someone else's) life to successfully complete the crime they are committing. It's a tough call, and one I can't say is black & white regarding property.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:37 pm

jason812 wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:
There is a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I don't know how I would feel if they stole it and killed someone with it, if at the time of the theft, I was there to stop it.


:iagree: Plus, you don't know if they have it or not when you confront them. It would suck to get shot, it would suck more to get shot by your own gun.


It would really suck to get shot by a gun that I own because it would work, and it would be loaded with very effective ammo.

Maybe I should go get a non-functioning Hi-point to keep in my car just in case someone wants to shoot me with my own gun.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby sheary » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:49 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote:Maybe I should go get a non-functioning Hi-point to keep in my car just in case someone wants to shoot me with my own gun.

They're ugly as HRC and have bad triggers but they generally go bang. Safer to keep an airsoft in there as a drop gun.

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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby tbrown » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:54 pm

WTR wrote:I will never take a life over material possessions ( besides, I'm insured out the ying yang).

What if there's a turtle in the car?
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby hovercat » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:04 pm

Theft is slavery. Another person has taken the results of your labor without consent or compensation. The thief has made you his slave, for the time it took for you to earn that property. Someone trying to enslave me, even temporarily, is worth killing over, imo.


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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby TreyHouston » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:29 pm

Interesting thing about theft especially whenever it occurs on someone else's property. They tend to come back and keep doing it!
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby ninjabread » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:01 pm

TreyHouston wrote:Interesting thing about theft especially whenever it occurs on someone else's property. They tend to come back and keep doing it!

Even a rat is smart enough to press a lever again if it got food the last time it pressed the lever.
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Re: Arlington Homeowner Shoots Car Burglar

Postby Deltaboy » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:30 pm

I believe it was a good shoot :tiphat:
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