HB659?

[SewTexas]

where did this come from? how did I miss it? It's awful! uggg!

[warnmar10]

569?

[SewTexas]

no, 659. it came up during the testimony the of the church security bill the other day. The sponsor tried to make it look like a "compromise"....basically, churches would have to go to DPS buy a "letter of authority", one fee if carrying, a different fee if not, and then they can establish security. There's other things involved, but yeh....again the state is telling the churches what they can do, and charging them for it.

[ScottDLS]

Ahh..659. 569 is something to do with Magistrates appointing Truant Officers or some such. I wondered how it tied to Church Security...

[Charles L. Cotton]

HB659 is a bad bill and it is nothing more than the security industry's attempt to derail HB421. It needs to die a well-deserved death.

Chas.

[warnmar10]

Ahh..659. 569 is something to do with Magistrates appointing Truant Officers or some such. I wondered how it tied to Church Security...

Clearly my google foo is lacking.

[rtschl]

Churches can already carry a LOA - we did at one time. But you still have to buy the insurance for the LOA and still have to have the individuals licensed and trained. $$$$$ that most churches can't afford to divert from ministry.

[SewTexas]

HB659 is a bad bill and it is nothing more than the security industry's attempt to derail HB421. It needs to die a well-deserved death.

Chas.

I agree....
the problem is that he's trying to sell it as a compromise of sorts. This is $$$ that most churches can't afford. And I'm still trying to figure out what authority the state has to tell churches that they can't have security teams in the first place, but I've been trying to figure that out for more years than I care to count.

[The Annoyed Man]

HB659 is a bad bill and it is nothing more than the security industry's attempt to derail HB421. It needs to die a well-deserved death.

Chas.

I agree....
the problem is that he's trying to sell it as a compromise of sorts. This is $$$ that most churches can't afford. And I'm still trying to figure out what authority the state has to tell churches that they can't have security teams in the first place, but I've been trying to figure that out for more years than I care to count.

That's the same "authority" that wants to force churches to perform same-sex marriages, and provide employee health insurance that covers abortion.

It doesn't matter what side of the partisan aisle it's coming from. If it assumes that religious freedom depends on permission from the state, then it is all cut from the same cloth, and the cretins who want this compromise are no better than the cretins who want to see Christian bakers driven into bankruptcy for refusing to make a wedding cake for a ceremony which violates their Christian consciences. In fact, the security industry demonstrates to us that it is as statist as any deep-state apparatchik.

[SewTexas]

HB659 is a bad bill and it is nothing more than the security industry's attempt to derail HB421. It needs to die a well-deserved death.

Chas.

I agree....
the problem is that he's trying to sell it as a compromise of sorts. This is $$$ that most churches can't afford. And I'm still trying to figure out what authority the state has to tell churches that they can't have security teams in the first place, but I've been trying to figure that out for more years than I care to count.

That's the same "authority" that wants to force churches to perform same-sex marriages, and provide employee health insurance that covers abortion.

It doesn't matter what side of the partisan aisle it's coming from. If it assumes that religious freedom depends on permission from the state, then it is all cut from the same cloth, and the cretins who want this compromise are no better than the cretins who want to see Christian bakers driven into bankruptcy for refusing to make a wedding cake for a ceremony which violates their Christian consciences. In fact, the security industry demonstrates to us that it is as statist as any deep-state apparatchik.

good words as always TAM