So, if this passes and I see an '06 & '07 sign but no '08, I can leave my license in the car instead of my sidearm?Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.G.A. Heath wrote:You are correct if what I was sent is accurate, which seems to be supported by the Press Release. The language used in what I was sent isFlightmare wrote:My interpretation is that 30.08 signs will be added to restrict unlicensed carry."Pursuant to Section 30.08, Penal Code (trespass by person not licensed to carry handgun), a person who does not hold a license to carry a handgun may not enter this property with a handgun"
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If this passes, I may have to get my official mall ninja "LTC holder" badge.
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9?..... NopeCharles L. Cotton wrote:They used that Bill number to force me to get on board!RoyGBiv wrote:Wonder what the odds are on passing 1911.?
Hard to imagine a better Bill number for this Bill.
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357?....... ..... Nah... not quite right.
44?.... Doesn't cut it without the "Magnum".
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I can just imagine how the media will butcher their reports on this if it passes. Business owners who don't have an LTC and aren't read up on the laws are going to be confused as all get out. There's no telling what kind of signs we will see. I'll bet you somewhere there is a sign company lobbying for this to pass.Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:
So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.
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How about generic "No Guns" or gunbuster signs for restricting unlicensed carry. Just like today for long guns. Then it will be less likely to result in more businesses restricting LTC persons. I don't think we need a section 30.08 or any change to 30.06/.07.
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I wonder if we could get a requirement for a 30.08 sign for unlicensed concealed carry & a 30.09 sign for unlicensed open carry?Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.G.A. Heath wrote:You are correct if what I was sent is accurate, which seems to be supported by the Press Release. The language used in what I was sent isFlightmare wrote:My interpretation is that 30.08 signs will be added to restrict unlicensed carry."Pursuant to Section 30.08, Penal Code (trespass by person not licensed to carry handgun), a person who does not hold a license to carry a handgun may not enter this property with a handgun"
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I like this idea. In English and Spanish with a requirement for 2 inch high block letters, and an unobstructed view of the entire sign(s) which must be posted between 3-6 feet from the ground and no more than 4 feet from each entrance to the premises.Pawpaw wrote:I wonder if we could get a requirement for a 30.08 sign for unlicensed concealed carry & a 30.09 sign for unlicensed open carry?Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.G.A. Heath wrote:You are correct if what I was sent is accurate, which seems to be supported by the Press Release. The language used in what I was sent isFlightmare wrote:My interpretation is that 30.08 signs will be added to restrict unlicensed carry."Pursuant to Section 30.08, Penal Code (trespass by person not licensed to carry handgun), a person who does not hold a license to carry a handgun may not enter this property with a handgun"
Chas.
Can we also add an amendment that "no guns", "no cops", "no fat chicks", etc., signs do not trigger potential trespass charges under 30.05? Maybe just leave in "no politicians" signs as instantly triggering criminal trespass punishable by no less than 15 years of hard labor.
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Yeah, if I had my choice in the matter, '06 would change to apply only to unlicensed CC, and '07 would change to apply only to unlicensed OC. And then no sign would have the force of law for LTC holders.
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OOOOHHHHH I love that as a Committee Substitute ... a little crossing out here, add some language there ...Vol Texan wrote:Yeah, if I had my choice in the matter, '06 would change to apply only to unlicensed CC, and '07 would change to apply only to unlicensed OC. And then no sign would have the force of law for LTC holders.
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How about 30.10 for concealed longarms and 30.30 for open carry rifles?Pawpaw wrote:I wonder if we could get a requirement for a 30.08 sign for unlicensed concealed carry & a 30.09 sign for unlicensed open carry?
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You reckon a feller could make a few bucks selling new signs with inconspicuous errors?Lynyrd wrote:I can just imagine how the media will butcher their reports on this if it passes. Business owners who don't have an LTC and aren't read up on the laws are going to be confused as all get out. There's no telling what kind of signs we will see. I'll bet you somewhere there is a sign company lobbying for this to pass.Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:
So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.
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No.apvonkanel wrote:So, if this passes and I see an '06 & '07 sign but no '08, I can leave my license in the car instead of my sidearm?Charles L. Cotton wrote:If a new section 30.08 is included in a committee substitute, this is correct.Lynyrd wrote:So if this passes, and a business with both a 30.06 and 30.07 sign doesn't put up the new 30.08 signs, only unlicensed people will be able to carry there.G.A. Heath wrote:You are correct if what I was sent is accurate, which seems to be supported by the Press Release. The language used in what I was sent isFlightmare wrote:My interpretation is that 30.08 signs will be added to restrict unlicensed carry."Pursuant to Section 30.08, Penal Code (trespass by person not licensed to carry handgun), a person who does not hold a license to carry a handgun may not enter this property with a handgun"
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I should note that HB1911 is in a "fluid state" so don't put too much time in trying to figure out what life will be like with any specific sign provisions. Things can change as quickly as Houston's weather.
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