New California AWB passes into law.

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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby jb2012 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:06 am

Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.


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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby K.Mooneyham » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:25 am

jb2012 wrote:Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.


Even though agriculture comprises a massive percentage of California's economy, the eco-nuts there hate the farmers with a passion, so I'm not surprised by this in the least.


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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby Dave2 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:35 am

jb2012 wrote:Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.

They'd probably take that as a compliment.
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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby JP171 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:55 am

K.Mooneyham wrote:
jb2012 wrote:Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.


Even though agriculture comprises a massive percentage of California's economy, the eco-nuts there hate the farmers with a passion, so I'm not surprised by this in the least.

Now now, they love the marijuana farmers, just not the others that are Causing global climate change

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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby Pawpaw » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:58 pm

jb2012 wrote:Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.

I'm just about convinced that if you gathered all the real brains in California, put them in a thimble and shook it, they would rattle around like two BBs in a #2 washtub.

They have a lot of people with book sense, but common sense is in incredibly short supply.

You can make similar observations about every state, but CA seems to be the worst.
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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby madwildcat » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:06 am

JP171 wrote:
K.Mooneyham wrote:
jb2012 wrote:Not to derail but to add: looks like they are also trying to completely defund ag education, which in my mind is an extremely important part of society as a whole. I'm convinced there are far more bodies than brains in California.


Even though agriculture comprises a massive percentage of California's economy, the eco-nuts there hate the farmers with a passion, so I'm not surprised by this in the least.

Now now, they love the marijuana farmers, just not the others that are Causing global climate change


But they wouldn't defund ag education then, right? I mean, lets be real, marijuana farmers need education as well :mrgreen:


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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby TreyNTX69 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:56 am

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puma guy wrote:This makes all semi-auto rifles such as the 742 Remington, Model 100 Winchester, Browning BAR illegal as well as many others. I can't imagine this will not be defeated when challenged in courts.

Don't forget it will have to go through the 9th Circus Court who will rule the law is constitutional because, "ice cream has no bones".

And like I pointed out earlier in this thread, SCOTUS declined to take up the Illinois AWB case, even with Scalia still alive and on the bench. What makes you think they would take up this case?


The only hope is that there are enough conservatives to block the bills from leaving committee, or to filibuster or create some kind of delays to prevent the vote, like maybe making sure they don't make it to the calendar or some such. I'm not familiar with the legislative process in California at all, but this is disgusting. Even though I live in TX and not CA, I pray this doesn't pass by some miracle.

As others have stated, if I were in CA, I'd be leaving and considering moving into Nevada and opening up a business to store and service these arms for the Californians who are in danger of losing them (or looking into that possibility... I've no idea if that would provide a legal option for our friends in CA or not).

If this passes... the next dangerous and extremely terrifying possibility would be collection of all the now illegal arms and the newly-created "criminals" this law would instantly create of otherwise and previously law-abiding citizens.

A very unfortunate situation. We all have to remember, this can happen anywhere... we all have to stay vigilant and involved in the legislative process no matter where we are. Thanks for posting this unfortunate news. I'm very sorry (and angry) to see this happen anywhere.

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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby The Annoyed Man » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:40 pm

TreyNTX69 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:
puma guy wrote:This makes all semi-auto rifles such as the 742 Remington, Model 100 Winchester, Browning BAR illegal as well as many others. I can't imagine this will not be defeated when challenged in courts.

Don't forget it will have to go through the 9th Circus Court who will rule the law is constitutional because, "ice cream has no bones".

And like I pointed out earlier in this thread, SCOTUS declined to take up the Illinois AWB case, even with Scalia still alive and on the bench. What makes you think they would take up this case?


The only hope is that there are enough conservatives to block the bills from leaving committee, or to filibuster or create some kind of delays to prevent the vote, like maybe making sure they don't make it to the calendar or some such. I'm not familiar with the legislative process in California at all, but this is disgusting. Even though I live in TX and not CA, I pray this doesn't pass by some miracle.

As others have stated, if I were in CA, I'd be leaving and considering moving into Nevada and opening up a business to store and service these arms for the Californians who are in danger of losing them (or looking into that possibility... I've no idea if that would provide a legal option for our friends in CA or not).

If this passes... the next dangerous and extremely terrifying possibility would be collection of all the now illegal arms and the newly-created "criminals" this law would instantly create of otherwise and previously law-abiding citizens.

A very unfortunate situation. We all have to remember, this can happen anywhere... we all have to stay vigilant and involved in the legislative process no matter where we are. Thanks for posting this unfortunate news. I'm very sorry (and angry) to see this happen anywhere.

I'm actually not sure how they would enforce it, other than by denying new purchases. In the end, no California politician is going to take law enforcement's offer to be the first in the SWAT stack outside some gunowner's door. California's leftists are like leftists everywhere - they're all about suppression of liberties, but only if they don't have to get their own hands dirty in the process. And given that, I would think that California cops are going to be a lot like Connecticut cops - COMPLETELY disinterested in getting killed trying to enforce some commie rat's fantasies.
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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:02 pm

PSA has twice now sent me an e-mail advertising 30 round AR-15 mags for $6.99, and twice now as soon as I click on it, the mags are completely out of stock. I think things like this are to blame!
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Re: New California AWB passes into law.

Postby AF-Odin » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:51 am

:roll: Heavy sigh........ Spent a total of almost six tears in Cali in three different military assignments back in the 70s into the very early 80s. Can't believe that this is the same place where I bought a Mini-14 as well as several other evil firearms, got into reloading, shot competitions, and even had a Sacramento Concealed Pistol permit. I though the biggest pain was their 5 day wait back then.

Glad that the AF never sent me back there after 1982. Fond memories of the Old Sacramento Armory and fondelling the M-1As and ARs in the days before I had the money to buy one.
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