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Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:22 am
by stever1950
I just found a very interesting report from channel 13 Houston.
http://abc13.com/news/answers-from-insi ... s/1575958/
Only one of the killers convicted over the last three years in Texas got a gun from a dealer!

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:48 am
by Jeff B.
I think I've seen that one before. Still, useful data. Overall, it confirms what we know, that gun control only prevents those who would legally own guns from obtaining them.

Look at Chi-congo. Certainly amongst the strictest gun (anti) laws in the nation and it's like Baghdad, Mogadishu, Beirut or Kabul on a week in week out basis. IIR, they recently passed 239 murders by firearms for this year.

Jeff B.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:15 am
by Abraham
How many of those shooters are NRA members and /or have an Ill. equivalent LTC?

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:38 am
by TreyHouston
Abraham wrote:How many of those shooters are NRA members and /or have an Ill. equivalent LTC?


It sais 0% had a CHL in the article

What shocked me was felon with a gun charge ONLY added an average of 2 months to their conviction.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:44 am
by Sport Coach
It's sometimes exhausting to tell anti gun people that more laws will absolutely not affect the criminals. By definition criminals don't abide by laws. I just don't see how hard that concept is for so many people.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:35 am
by Abraham
Sport Coach

They're the same herd that thinks 30.06 signs prevent criminals from carrying (and using) into their places of business.

At this point, I don't believe they're naive, they're simply living in a world of make believe...it's comforting.

Those liberals who no longer buy into this herd-think mentality have been touched by violent crime and know better.

Of course, since they've had their lived impacted by criminals they're no longer liberals...

When hard core violence smashes one of them in the face, their buying into make believe suddenly disappears...

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:56 am
by bblhd672
Sport Coach wrote:It's sometimes exhausting to tell anti gun people that more laws will absolutely not affect the criminals. By definition criminals don't abide by laws. I just don't see how hard that concept is for so many people.


Because most on the left side of many topics simply lack the common sense thinking gene. Or they have been so deeply indoctrinated that their agenda trumps every piece of data or logical and reasonable thought anyone else has.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:37 pm
by JakeTheSnake
It's because they actually think we, as Licensed carriers, are as dangerous as criminals. In a recent conversation about a business posting .06 & .07, one lady stated, "good, then I don't have to worry about someone and their Zimmerman-ish antics".
They believe if all guns are removed from society, then all their dreams will come true.
Gun Control has nothing to do with guns, it has to do with control.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:29 pm
by ELB
Yumpin' yiminy, one of the stats in that article is that 11% of the murderers surveyed used a "40mm" gun. Those guys must have been from North Korea, I heard they like to use anti-aircraft guns to snuff people.... :roll:

The article has a link to some of the responses, and one of the responders actually wrote "40mm" as answer to the type of handgun used. His answer apparently went unedited right into a graphic for the article.


Also I note that the survey used, sent out in July 2016 to convicted murderers incarcerated within a three-hour drive of Houston, asked if the respondent had a "Concealed Carry Permit." (100% of respondents answered no.)

Layers and layers of editors and fact checkers, I'll bet.

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:18 pm
by stever1950
Now the English are going to have to ban knives too. If a few of those people in London had been able to carry and use their guns there would have been far fewer deaths/injuries from those attacks. What's next, ban the bow and arrow, rocks?

Re: Gun control will keep criminals from getting guns??

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:47 pm
by twomillenium
I am sure things have changed since the report is 5 months old. (intended sarcasm)