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LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:41 pm
by BCGlocker
I got pulled over by an El Paso Sheriff last week during the early afternoon at a less travelled highway. I was going 65 at a 55 zone. I read on the board that I should be courteous, mindful of the officer’s safety concerns and follow the officer’s instructions. It seemed to be a common sense response to any encounter with any LEO.

I kept my DL and LTC in an ID folder and my insurance and registration in the glove box. I rolled down the window and place both hands on the steering wheel and waited for him to approach my window.

I said good afternoon to the officer. He said good afternoon and ask me why I was in the big hurry? He told me I was going 67 at a 55-mile zone. I said, sorry sir, I was not aware I was going that fast. He then asked to see my DL, registration and proof of insurance. I handed him the DL and LTC and informed him I am a LTC holder and I am carrying. I further informed him that my insurance paper and registration is in the glove box and if it is OK to reach for them. He Ok it and I handed the documents to him. He told me to wait and took my DL, LTC , registration and proof of insurance to his cruiser. Few minutes later, he came back and issues me a warning to slow down. We then got to talk about LTC and I told him in fact I am a new LTC instructor and the reason why I was in this area was checking out a desert shooting location to teach future defensive pistol classes (LTC shooting proficiency tests are held at a local indoor range). He informed me that he wants his wife and several other family members to apply for their LTC licenses. After a few minutes of conversation, he told me to be safe and wished me a good day.

So, I can confirm what others had posted that to be polite, respectful and considerate when stopped by a LEO, the result of the encounter can be a positive one.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:43 pm
by Flightmare
That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:46 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Exactly.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:36 pm
by PhilBob
Well done!

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:53 pm
by puma guy
Flightmare wrote:That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:
:iagree: I have a question though. I have never heard of an LE asking for registration papers. I don't even carry them in my glove box. Insurance card and inspection docs were the only paper work I have carried and now the inspection document is passé.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:58 pm
by BCGlocker
puma guy wrote:
Flightmare wrote:That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:
:iagree: I have a question though. I have never heard of an LE asking for registration papers. I don't even carry them in my glove box. Insurance card and inspection docs were the only paper work I have carried and now the inspection document is passé.
The registration paper is the car registration.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:14 pm
by Jago668
Last time I was stopped a couple years ago I wasn't asked for registration. Just license and insurance, and they can look up insurance now as well I thought. I don't even have registration paperwork in my car anymore.

Other than that, yeah that is a great way to handle it.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:36 pm
by puma guy
BCGlocker wrote:
puma guy wrote:
Flightmare wrote:That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:
:iagree: I have a question though. I have never heard of an LE asking for registration papers. I don't even carry them in my glove box. Insurance card and inspection docs were the only paper work I have carried and now the inspection document is passé.
The registration paper is the car registration.
I think we're talking about the same thing. It's the receipt for the annual registration fee and sticker paid to your county. I just never carry it nor have I ever been asked to produce it. They can see the sticker on the windshield or check the plate number for current registration.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:51 pm
by Mel
puma guy wrote:
BCGlocker wrote:
puma guy wrote:
Flightmare wrote:That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:
:iagree: I have a question though. I have never heard of an LE asking for registration papers. I don't even carry them in my glove box. Insurance card and inspection docs were the only paper work I have carried and now the inspection document is passé.
The registration paper is the car registration.
I think we're talking about the same thing. It's the receipt for the annual registration fee and sticker paid to your county. I just never carry it nor have I ever been asked to produce it. They can see the sticker on the windshield or check the plate number for current registration.
Yep. No requirement to carry registration papers in Texas. The registration is right there on the windshield. Never heard of Texas LEO asking for it.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:54 pm
by Jago668
Mel wrote:
puma guy wrote:
BCGlocker wrote:
puma guy wrote:
Flightmare wrote:That is exactly how it is supposed to be! :tiphat:
:iagree: I have a question though. I have never heard of an LE asking for registration papers. I don't even carry them in my glove box. Insurance card and inspection docs were the only paper work I have carried and now the inspection document is passé.
The registration paper is the car registration.
I think we're talking about the same thing. It's the receipt for the annual registration fee and sticker paid to your county. I just never carry it nor have I ever been asked to produce it. They can see the sticker on the windshield or check the plate number for current registration.
Yep. No requirement to carry registration papers in Texas. The registration is right there on the windshield. Never heard of Texas LEO asking for it.
I was asked for it a long time ago back when we still put stickers on our license plates.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:09 pm
by BCGlocker
Perhaps I am just used to have all these documents together and thought he needed all of them. I know he did take the registration along with DL, CHL and insurance doc back to his car.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:37 pm
by joe817
Well done BCGlocker! :clapping:

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:33 pm
by GeekwithaGun
FYI - they usually know before getting to your window if you have insurance or not. Not always, depends if they run the plates first or the dispatcher reports back fast enough.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:34 pm
by atx2a
LTC or not, being polite and respectful goes a long, long way. Imagine that? Do what you're told, be polite, and there are no problems. Seems to be a lot of brutality claims could be avoided by doing exactly as you did.

Well done, OP.

Re: LEO Encounter

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:09 pm
by JALLEN
BCGlocker wrote:Perhaps I am just used to have all these documents together and thought he needed all of them. I know he did take the registration along with DL, CHL and insurance doc back to his car.
You handing him all these papers reminds me of when my French brother-in-law was visiting us some years back, and he drove one of our cars into Coronado one afternoon. He must have rolled through or missed a stop or something and was pulled over. He had no idea what the officer was asking, what papers were to be handed over or where they were, so he gave him every scrap of paper in the car, little by little, very cooperatively, enthusiastically, agreeably, politely, ahh, oui! His passport, the owners manual for the car, the nav system, maybe an old Costco receipt, maybe eventually even the registration and insurance which I kept in a small black folder in the glove box. It must have been hilarious, since neither had a very good idea what the other was saying. It must have been the end of the shift, and the officer must have realized he was beating on a dead dog or something, the ends of justice had been served, and b-i-l was sent on his way, uncited. I have always wished there could have been dash cam or vest cam video of that for You-tube.