Contact with Tool PD

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Contact with Tool PD

Postby koine2002 » Mon May 15, 2017 7:57 am

I was pulled over the other day on Texas 274 near Tool. I was carrying. I work in hospice as a chaplain. Everyone on my team (nurses, social workers, CNAs, marketers, volunteers, office workers, etc.) gets pulled over around Cedar Creek Lake a couple times a year. I don't have cruise control so I sometimes end up speeding (as I really try not to). That happened last week to me for the second time. The officer was friendly and did not bat an eye with my LTC other than asking where it was. He did thank me for my cooperation and courteousness. However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket. Oh well, I haven't been ticketed in 9 years. I guess I'll do the defensive driving thing.
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Postby The Annoyed Man » Mon May 15, 2017 11:22 am

Sorry to hear about the ticket. If I may make a suggestion, get yourself a radar/lidar detector. I typically do not intentionally speed either, but like you, sometimes my attention wanders and I find myself exceeding the speed limit. The alerts sounded by the radar detector help to keep me honest. Every time I hear it, my first glance is to my speedometer, and then after that, to try and locate the source of the radar emission. Most of the time, it's not a cop; it's a building security system, or one of those automatic door openers, or something like that which sets it off. But......once in a while..... it has saved my bacon. The first two or three times that happened, it MORE than paid for itself.
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby Scott B. » Mon May 15, 2017 11:28 am

koine2002 wrote:I was pulled over the other day on Texas 274 near Tool. I was carrying. I work in hospice as a chaplain. Everyone on my team (nurses, social workers, CNAs, marketers, volunteers, office workers, etc.) gets pulled over around Cedar Creek Lake a couple times a year. I don't have cruise control so I sometimes end up speeding (as I really try not to). That happened last week to me for the second time. The officer was friendly and did not bat an eye with my LTC other than asking where it was. He did thank me for my cooperation and courteousness. However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket. Oh well, I haven't been ticketed in 9 years. I guess I'll do the defensive driving thing.



My sister also has a lead foot and was a hospice chaplain for a number of years. Bless you for doing that work. High burnout rate I know. But, no excuse for the lead foot :mrgreen:
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby koine2002 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:25 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:Sorry to hear about the ticket. If I may make a suggestion, get yourself a radar/lidar detector. I typically do not intentionally speed either, but like you, sometimes my attention wanders and I find myself exceeding the speed limit. The alerts sounded by the radar detector help to keep me honest. Every time I hear it, my first glance is to my speedometer, and then after that, to try and locate the source of the radar emission. Most of the time, it's not a cop; it's a building security system, or one of those automatic door openers, or something like that which sets it off. But......once in a while..... it has saved my bacon. The first two or three times that happened, it MORE than paid for itself.


With as much driving as I do (1800/month just for work), I'll have to consider that.
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby koine2002 » Tue May 16, 2017 8:10 am

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koine2002 wrote:I was pulled over the other day on Texas 274 near Tool. I was carrying. I work in hospice as a chaplain. Everyone on my team (nurses, social workers, CNAs, marketers, volunteers, office workers, etc.) gets pulled over around Cedar Creek Lake a couple times a year. I don't have cruise control so I sometimes end up speeding (as I really try not to). That happened last week to me for the second time. The officer was friendly and did not bat an eye with my LTC other than asking where it was. He did thank me for my cooperation and courteousness. However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket. Oh well, I haven't been ticketed in 9 years. I guess I'll do the defensive driving thing.



My sister also has a lead foot and was a hospice chaplain for a number of years. Bless you for doing that work. High burnout rate I know. But, no excuse for the lead foot :mrgreen:


Yes, there is a high burnout rate. The hospice I'm with understands the cost of training new employees so they keep us around by a very high rate of pay, allowing us to determine visit frequency and plan of care, and a very thorough "compassion fatigue" support system. It's owned by this former corporate attorney in New York who got fed up with business as usual in healthcare HR and management.

And you're right, there is no excuse for the lead foot. I filed for defensive driving yesterday.
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby Scott B. » Tue May 16, 2017 9:28 am

koine2002 wrote:
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koine2002 wrote:I was pulled over the other day on Texas 274 near Tool. I was carrying. I work in hospice as a chaplain. Everyone on my team (nurses, social workers, CNAs, marketers, volunteers, office workers, etc.) gets pulled over around Cedar Creek Lake a couple times a year. I don't have cruise control so I sometimes end up speeding (as I really try not to). That happened last week to me for the second time. The officer was friendly and did not bat an eye with my LTC other than asking where it was. He did thank me for my cooperation and courteousness. However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket. Oh well, I haven't been ticketed in 9 years. I guess I'll do the defensive driving thing.



My sister also has a lead foot and was a hospice chaplain for a number of years. Bless you for doing that work. High burnout rate I know. But, no excuse for the lead foot :mrgreen:


Yes, there is a high burnout rate. The hospice I'm with understands the cost of training new employees so they keep us around by a very high rate of pay, allowing us to determine visit frequency and plan of care, and a very thorough "compassion fatigue" support system. It's owned by this former corporate attorney in New York who got fed up with business as usual in healthcare HR and management.

And you're right, there is no excuse for the lead foot. I filed for defensive driving yesterday.



Heck, if that corp covered another 100 miles to the SE she might go back to doing it. Sounds nothing like her old gig, they just ran them till they dropped. She still has the lead foot, but also has a collar now - doesn't always help though.
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that LEO is a TOOL

Postby flechero » Tue May 16, 2017 9:40 am

koine2002 wrote:However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket.


Just my opinion but that's pretty weak by the LEO... if the guy is dying, he may have caused you to be even later by holding you there, fishing, and then to write a ticket... I'm sure there were plenty of people speeding that day that were not actually going anywhere time sensitive.

I hope you made it there in plenty of time, despite the delay.


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Re: that LEO is a TOOL

Postby koine2002 » Tue May 16, 2017 4:21 pm

flechero wrote:
koine2002 wrote:However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket.


Just my opinion but that's pretty weak by the LEO... if the guy is dying, he may have caused you to be even later by holding you there, fishing, and then to write a ticket... I'm sure there were plenty of people speeding that day that were not actually going anywhere time sensitive.

I hope you made it there in plenty of time, despite the delay.


I made it in plenty of time. It's a speed trap, and I should pay more attention. The lake is a popular place among metroplex dwellers and there are many retirees and people of advanced age so there are tons of hospice and home health workers in the area. The healthcare workers are part of the income of all those small towns around the lake. It is what it is.
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby koine2002 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:15 pm

Scott B. wrote:
koine2002 wrote:
Scott B. wrote:
koine2002 wrote:I was pulled over the other day on Texas 274 near Tool. I was carrying. I work in hospice as a chaplain. Everyone on my team (nurses, social workers, CNAs, marketers, volunteers, office workers, etc.) gets pulled over around Cedar Creek Lake a couple times a year. I don't have cruise control so I sometimes end up speeding (as I really try not to). That happened last week to me for the second time. The officer was friendly and did not bat an eye with my LTC other than asking where it was. He did thank me for my cooperation and courteousness. However, that, the LTC, and the "I'm on my way to bring comfort to a dying person and his family" when asked what I was doing around the lake (I live in Dallas) did not result in no ticket. Oh well, I haven't been ticketed in 9 years. I guess I'll do the defensive driving thing.



My sister also has a lead foot and was a hospice chaplain for a number of years. Bless you for doing that work. High burnout rate I know. But, no excuse for the lead foot :mrgreen:


Yes, there is a high burnout rate. The hospice I'm with understands the cost of training new employees so they keep us around by a very high rate of pay, allowing us to determine visit frequency and plan of care, and a very thorough "compassion fatigue" support system. It's owned by this former corporate attorney in New York who got fed up with business as usual in healthcare HR and management.

And you're right, there is no excuse for the lead foot. I filed for defensive driving yesterday.



Heck, if that corp covered another 100 miles to the SE she might go back to doing it. Sounds nothing like her old gig, they just ran them till they dropped. She still has the lead foot, but also has a collar now - doesn't always help though.


It's still a ton of driving. In my coverage area I'm presently active in Dallas, Kaufman, and Henderson Counties but could also become active again, depending on referrals and such, in Van Zandt, Hood, and Navarro Counties. I also have to drive to Fort Worth every week for our team meetings. If anything is going to burn me out, it's the driving. Thankfully, it's mostly open road. Today Instarted in Mesquite, went to Gun Barrel City and finished in Balch Springs.
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby RoadRunnerTR21 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:31 pm

I live just south of Tool and it is a notorious speed trap. You can tell the locals from the non-locals by the way they drive. The last time I got pulled over was several years ago in Tool. I was heading south on 274 on cruise control doing 55 MPH and he lit me up in front of the grade school so I turned right on the next road and stopped. I handed him my DL, LTC and insurance documents. He said he did not need the LTC and handed it back. He went back to his car and then came back and asked if I knew why I was being pulled over. I said I have no idea. He said your license plate light was not bright enough (the truck was 5 years old). I said show me. I got out and looked at it and it was just fine. He said you may want to get that looked at and I said sure. No ticket was issued. The bottom line is he was just fishing for alcohol or drug use and used that as his excuse to pull me over. Another incident occurred when I was coming home from a late night flight. It was about midnight when a vehicle come upon me at a high rate of speed and tailgated me from the grade school to the spillway. He was so close I couldn't see his headlights. I almost brake checked him. It was not until he did a 180 at the spillway did I see his light bar. I have talked to others that have had this same thing happen to them by the Tool police. For you folks coming through Tool you may want to mind your P's and Q's because Mr. Tool is waiting for you and your money.

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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby AJSully421 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:20 pm

So, what you're sayin' is that the cops in Tool act like... tools?
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Re: Contact with Tool PD

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Pretty much


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Re: Contact with Tool PD

Postby koine2002 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:44 am

RoadRunnerTR21 wrote:I live just south of Tool and it is a notorious speed trap. You can tell the locals from the non-locals by the way they drive. The last time I got pulled over was several years ago in Tool. I was heading south on 274 on cruise control doing 55 MPH and he lit me up in front of the grade school so I turned right on the next road and stopped. I handed him my DL, LTC and insurance documents. He said he did not need the LTC and handed it back. He went back to his car and then came back and asked if I knew why I was being pulled over. I said I have no idea. He said your license plate light was not bright enough (the truck was 5 years old). I said show me. I got out and looked at it and it was just fine. He said you may want to get that looked at and I said sure. No ticket was issued. The bottom line is he was just fishing for alcohol or drug use and used that as his excuse to pull me over. Another incident occurred when I was coming home from a late night flight. It was about midnight when a vehicle come upon me at a high rate of speed and tailgated me from the grade school to the spillway. He was so close I couldn't see his headlights. I almost brake checked him. It was not until he did a 180 at the spillway did I see his light bar. I have talked to others that have had this same thing happen to them by the Tool police. For you folks coming through Tool you may want to mind your P's and Q's because Mr. Tool is waiting for you and your money.


I really like Trinidad. Up until a few weeks ago, I visited there at least once a week. However, all my patients there have since passed. That said, it's a fun little town to drive around. The spouse of one of my patients did tell me, after I related this story, that everything on 274 from Trinidad to Kemp is a speed trap.
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