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DPS Update for Instructors

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:32 pm

Fellow LTC Instructors, DPS has published an update for the 2017 Instructor Certificate renewal procedures.

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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby Scott B. » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:38 pm

Can you clarify when we should submit our CHL-100s?

It's not mentioned until the last bullet of the PDF. Not part of supporting documents in the CHL-90 packet? Sent my packet in this afternoon sans CHL-100 just to get the ball rolling.
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby o b juan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:31 am

I snail mailed mine Last week I dont trust this computer stuff. Am I in trouble or on the short end of the stick?
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby mloamiller » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:43 am

The CHL-90 includes these two options under the "must meet at least one of the qualifications" section:

    * I am currently certified by the National Rifle Association of America (NRA) as a handgun instructor. (Please attach a legible copy of your class certification and credentials you received for the handgun firearm instructor’s training course(s) you have completed.)

    * I regularly instruct others in the use of handguns and I am applying for the renewal of my License to Carry a Handgun Instructor Certificate.

This seems to imply that if I am renewing my current LTC instructor certificate, I can check that last box and don't have to submit anything related to NRA instructor certification. Is that correct?

Is there a specific definition of what "...regularly instruct others..." means in terms of frequency of classes?
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby skeathley » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:48 am

You still have to prove certification by one of these:
1. NRA
2. TCOLE
3. Some other authority/training school
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:49 am

mloamiller wrote:The CHL-90 includes these two options under the "must meet at least one of the qualifications" section:

    * I am currently certified by the National Rifle Association of America (NRA) as a handgun instructor. (Please attach a legible copy of your class certification and credentials you received for the handgun firearm instructor’s training course(s) you have completed.)

    * I regularly instruct others in the use of handguns and I am applying for the renewal of my License to Carry a Handgun Instructor Certificate.

This seems to imply that if I am renewing my current LTC instructor certificate, I can check that last box and don't have to submit anything related to NRA instructor certification. Is that correct?

Is there a specific definition of what "...regularly instruct others..." means in terms of frequency of classes?

That's a new block on the Form and I don't know the basis for it's addition. I'll see if I can find out.

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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby PBratton » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:54 pm

Can we all just rent a bus and go together?
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby rob777 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:34 pm

So do we have to attend one half day class or multiple days?
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby infoman » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:21 am

You must attend a 1 day renewal class in Florence, TX. (half day classes.). Also you will need to send a CHL-100 for the proficiency portion only, you'll need to get another LTC instructor to sign off on it for you.

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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby twomillenium » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:24 am

When I read the box, " I regularly instruct others in the use of handguns and I am applying for the renewal of my License to Carry a Handgun Instructor Certificate." I had no idea of the intent of the language being used. I was hoping that if you were and active instructor (the DPS can tell by the CHL8's that have been turned in) that you no longer had to prove to be an instructor within another discipline. I have suggested this to my rep. and sen., (tho both are very anti-gun and I believe any communication from me is auto-file13).
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby mloamiller » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:41 am

While submitting my application for renewal, I noticed the fee was described as "Instructor Certification Renewal (Non License)".

What does the "Non License" refer to? It seems to imply that I don't currently have a license, which I do. Does it mean there could be a mistake with my records?

Or does it simply mean I'm only renewing my Instructor Certification, not my actual LTC?
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby Scott B. » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:03 am

infoman wrote:You must attend a 1 day renewal class in Florence, TX. (half day classes.). Also you will need to send a CHL-100 for the proficiency portion only, you'll need to get another LTC instructor to sign off on it for you.

DPS Range/training Center
820 County Road 240
Florence, TX 76527



Actually, I'm wondering about that....

http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/LTC/News/i ... pdates.htm

"The department will hold two separate Instructor renewal classes per day for one week in the month of August and September in Georgetown, Texas."

Unless they just cut and pasted from an old version of that message.
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby infoman » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:34 am

I actually just heard today that the classes will prob be held somewhere in Georgetown, TX. I also heard they are now taking online renewals, so you can pay online & send your documents in before July 1st. my apologies about Florence, prior to today I had heard the classes would be held there.

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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby mloamiller » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:15 am

skeathley wrote:You still have to prove certification by one of these:
1. NRA
2. TCOLE
3. Some other authority/training school


The form seems to imply otherwise, since "at least one" option is acceptable, and one of those options is "...applying for the renewal..."
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Re: DPS Update for Instructors

Postby skeathley » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:21 pm

That seems reasonable, but I would expect DPS to still require proof of certification as a pistol instructor, since that is a requirement. If you don't send in such proof, and they then request it, that will slow down your renewal for probably a month. I checked both boxes, but still sent my certification.

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