Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby twomillenium » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:05 pm

ScottDLS wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:...
So we are in agreement, I believe. After the Pulse nightclub attack, a Houston area gun range offered free LTC classes for gay people. That is also legal. It's fine to restrict or otherwise discriminate against men, straight people, etc. It would only be illegal to offer a men's only class, or free classes to straight people, but charge for anyone who is gay.


What Texas or Federal law prohibits private discrimination against homosexuals? I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not aware of a law prohibiting such discrimination in private businesses.

The Equal Rights Amendment of 1964. If you consider them handicapped.
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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby Keith B » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:55 pm

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If the prospective student is a middle age, Christian, White male, then you can tell them to take a hike with no risk of legal issues.


I have seen instructors offer woman only classes. They haven't faced any legal issues.


This has nothing to do with the ability to refuse to teach the person as long as this is not the reason they are being denied taking a class. As WildBill stated, you can have women only classes. I know a lady who only teaches women. Basically, don't discriminate on basis of a protected class or people and you can run your classes and refuse to instruct whomever you like.
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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby sbrawley » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:07 pm

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baseballguy2001 wrote:Offering the class shouldn't be an issue, anyone can take the class. She should learn in the class that a felon in possession of a firearm, even by marriage, is a crime. I have had many arguments about this, some think "shall not be infringed" means for felons too. I disagree.

Is this true? Anyone can take the class? What if one is not eligible to have a firearm? The class does consist of a range test and if one is not eligible to have a firearm how would that be done? I do agree that the woman in this case should be able to apply for her LTC and take the course.

Off topic but curious, if someone prohibited from possessing a firearm took and passed the class including the shooting portion, could DPS come back and arrest the student? Seems like the CHL 100 would be solid evidence.

Ok back on topic.
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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby ScottDLS » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:20 pm

twomillenium wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:...
So we are in agreement, I believe. After the Pulse nightclub attack, a Houston area gun range offered free LTC classes for gay people. That is also legal. It's fine to restrict or otherwise discriminate against men, straight people, etc. It would only be illegal to offer a men's only class, or free classes to straight people, but charge for anyone who is gay.


What Texas or Federal law prohibits private discrimination against homosexuals? I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not aware of a law prohibiting such discrimination in private businesses.

The Equal Rights Amendment of 1964. If you consider them handicapped.


Civil Rights Act of 1964 does not address disability or homosexuality...
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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby twomillenium » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:43 am

ScottDLS wrote:
twomillenium wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:...
So we are in agreement, I believe. After the Pulse nightclub attack, a Houston area gun range offered free LTC classes for gay people. That is also legal. It's fine to restrict or otherwise discriminate against men, straight people, etc. It would only be illegal to offer a men's only class, or free classes to straight people, but charge for anyone who is gay.


What Texas or Federal law prohibits private discrimination against homosexuals? I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not aware of a law prohibiting such discrimination in private businesses.

The Equal Rights Amendment of 1964. If you consider them handicapped.


Civil Rights Act of 1964 does not address disability or homosexuality...

You're right but it is the mother of the American Disability Act of 1990. Sorry to the OP, to get so far off topic, as my post was for tongue in cheek.
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Re: Husband can't get an LTC; what about wife?

Postby switch » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:54 pm

You might point out that people w/misdemeanor convictions can still get FL or AZ licenses that are valid in TX. You TX class/CHL-100 would qualify for AZ. :)


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